Dawkins contract restructured

[MJS]

I think Beane said they would actually be a bit over the cap to start the season (contrary to what the cap websites have been claiming), so this is to get under the cap and to get a little spending room for the season.

 

I do not expect them to sign anyone of note after this.

[DrDawkinstein]

3 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

I agree, I think Oliver is priority one to re-sign and it actually makes economical sense to Franchise Tag Knox next year. 

 

Yep.

 

#1 Oliver

#2 will likely be Davis after the year he is about to have

 

Tag Knox, pitch it as a 5th year option, and I think he will trust in the Bills enough to know a long term deal is coming. If they can work out a long term deal in the tag window, then even better.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Making $$ room for an addition via trade?

 

there should be thread about that...

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Making $$ room for an addition via trade?

Or sign Beckham....

[ddaryl]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

It is about what a team needs moving from Rule of 51 to full roster, including practice squad and minimum contingency.  The other option is to trim salary by releasing one or more vets with at least decent sized contracts. That’s not really an option for the Bills this season. 

SO what counts against the salary cap ?  I thought active roster only or IR, not PUP
 

 

Do practive squads count against the cap ?

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, ddaryl said:

SO what counts against the salary cap ?  I thought active roster only or IR, not PUP
 

 

Do practive squads count against the cap ?

 

It literally depends on what day you are asking, lol.

 

Ultimately, yes. They all count once the season starts. IR, Suspended, Practice Squad...

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Tag number is under $11M. Kelce, Kittle, etc all top out at $15M. What is surging?

 

IMO, use the tag as the equivalent of a 5th year option and see where the cap goes with the Amazon and Apple money coming in.

 

 

Goeddert is making $14 mill per.

 

Njoku $13.7 mill

 

Schultz $11 mill

 

Engram $9 mill

 

Henry and Jonnu about $13 mill each

 

Dissly $8 mill per

 

 

If Knox continues to emerge and say catches 60 for 880 yards and 9 TDs - what do his offers look like?

 

I'd say easily $14 mill per.  

 

Could probably lock him up at 9 or 10 right now.   

[Canadian Bills Fan]

If they sign OBJ I can see Beane making it a 2 year deal backloaded with a larger signing bonus making it a small cap hit this season

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Goeddert is making $14 mill per.

 

Njoku $13.7 mill

 

Schultz $11 mill

 

Engram $9 mill

 

Henry and Jonnu about $13 mill each

 

Dissly $8 mill per

 

 

If Knox continues to emerge and say catches 60 for 880 yards and 9 TDs - what do his offers look like?

 

I'd say easily $14 mill per.  

 

Could probably lock him up at 9 or 10 right now.   

 

I think Knox will be friendly, but not that friendly. My guess is, if we wanted something done NOW, it would be like 5/$60M, $25M guaranteed.

 

But if he has a big year in our Super Bowl run this season, I could see him trending towards $15M. That's where I'd tag him and see where the cap goes.

[Gunvald's Husse]

14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Or sign Beckham....

Which one?

 

[Captain Caveman]

16 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

If they sign OBJ I can see Beane making it a 2 year deal backloaded with a larger signing bonus making it a small cap hit this season

Next year is already gonna be tough with Josh's big numbers kicking in, I doubt we kick too much can down the road (everyone does it a little.)

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Mega extension on the works for Blackshear 

[BarleyNY]

27 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

SO what counts against the salary cap ?  I thought active roster only or IR, not PUP
 

 

Do practive squads count against the cap ?

Yes, practice squads count against the cap. Active roster, IR, PUP and dead money also count. Suspended players do not count for the games they are suspended for however.  In a nutshell: If money is paid to a player then it will count against the cap sooner or later, depending on structure. 
 

There are a few exceptions that have to do with small discounts on veteran players and bonuses and whether or not they are likely to be earned. But those are small numbers. 
 

Edited to add: Fines do not come off of the cap. So the Browns will NOT gain $5M in cap space from Watson’s fine. 

Edited August 25, 2022 by BarleyNY

[FireChans]

23 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Goeddert is making $14 mill per.

 

Njoku $13.7 mill

 

Schultz $11 mill

 

Engram $9 mill

 

Henry and Jonnu about $13 mill each

 

Dissly $8 mill per

 

 

If Knox continues to emerge and say catches 60 for 880 yards and 9 TDs - what do his offers look like?

 

I'd say easily $14 mill per.  

 

Could probably lock him up at 9 or 10 right now.   

Should we maybe see Knox get 600 yards in a season before we plan on him getting almost 900 lol

[HappyDays]

41 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Edmonds is a gunner after this season. 

 

Then he is guaranteed to make the roster.

[Rochesterfan]

32 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

SO what counts against the salary cap ?  I thought active roster only or IR, not PUP
 

 

Do practive squads count against the cap ?

 

Right now it is the top 51 salaries plus dead cap.  
 

On cutdown day to 53 - it becomes all active 53, PS, IR, PUP, and deadcap (old and new).  The only thing that does not count is Andre Smith as he moves to suspension, but you have to have the space for him set aside after week 6 to activate him.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I think Beane said he wanted more regular season cushion but who knows. 🤷‍♂️

Maybe in case they do need to sign someone. 

[stevestojan]

Are we allowed to compliment Beane on this one? Just checking since on the Cody Ford thread, many were saying Beane ***** it up because we “only got a 5th rounder for a guy who once upon a time was a 2nd rounder.” 
 

 

[Freddie's Dead]

I'm with the bring on OBJ crowd.  5 wide:  Diggs, Davis, OBJ, McKittrick, Tupac.  FUHGEDDABOTIT!!!

[DrDawkinstein]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Maybe in case they do need to sign someone. 

 

Yeah, we have a long 20-game season ahead of us. Going in with no cap space to add players is asking for a bad time.