Cody Ford to Arizona

[hemma]

Just now, nosejob said:

I think Anderson has a future here.

I’ve tried to watch all of his snaps.  He looks like he has consistently good balance.  Of course, playing against the threes might be deceptive.

I know that Tenuta can at times, be painful to watch.

[ColoradoBills]

11 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

You left out the part where the picture on the TV looked like hell from Day 1, two TV repairmen with an awesome set of tools couldn't fix it and you mistakenly got rid of a very good Tellervision because you were counting on the pricier one to work better.

 

 

My brother's gonna kill us!

[nosejob]

Just now, hemma said:

I’ve tried to watch all of his snaps.  He looks like he has consistently good balance.  Of course, playing against the threes might be deceptive.

I know that Tenuta can at times, be painful to watch.

Anderson has been getting high praise on GR. They say he never really gets beat and at least always holds his ground. I think he'll end up being a good guard and it wouldn't surprise me if God forbid Saffold gets hurt, they move Bates to LG and Alec to RG.

5 minutes ago, hemma said:

I’ve tried to watch all of his snaps.  He looks like he has consistently good balance.  Of course, playing against the threes might be deceptive.

I know that Tenuta can at times, be painful to watch.

Tenuta ain't gonna make it...P.S maybe.  I can't be the only one who was scratching their head when that pick was made.

[hemma]

2 minutes ago, nosejob said:

Anderson has been getting high praise on GR. They say he never really gets beat and at least always holds his ground. I think he'll end up being a good guard and it wouldn't surprise me if God forbid Saffold gets hurt, they move Bates to LG and Alec to RG.

GR is WGR?  Been a couple of years since i listened to those guys.

[Ralonzo]

So since the replay is on NFLN and we're on the 3rd drive I'm keeping an eye on Hart at LT and Ford at LG.

 

Ford is a bit inconsistent and I'm wondering if it's conditioning, because he's just ponderous. His punch is good and he holds ground but just not mobile at all.

 

Hart on this drive looks... dare I say dominating? That 11 yarder from Moss, Ford and Hart combo for a flapjack on the tackle, but Hart gets right to the second level to plow a linebacker. He's consistently getting to the second level and executing on runs, getting great leverage and turning his man away from the play. On passes nobody's getting a sniff.

 

The hell am I watching? Might as well stick around for the next couple drives... can check in on Anderson too.

 

Edit: Tenuta comes in at LT and Hart to RG at the end of the drive, and Judy gets caved in while Hart is still driving guys off the line. 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Ralonzo

[buffaloboyinATL]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Best part about this trade is not having to hear about him on this board anymore...so its a good day

Ha! You know this board better than that. This is just the beginning. We will hear the details of his career for years to come.  

[Breakout Squad]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think nobody thought a 5th was possible. It was at the higher end of what was possible but there were lots of us who thought it likely he'd be moved for a day 3 pick. I'd probably have said a 6th or a 7th tbh. Maybe a conditonal 5th of he met performance escalators. 

 

I do think it is about the best they could have done to rescue this situation, but it was always a possible scenario.

5th round is a day 3 pick, no? I still really like the trade. 

[John from Riverside]

38 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

No, it really doesn't.  I can't figure if you willfully misunderstand what is being discussed.

 

I'm saying (over and over) that, given the circumstances under which he was picked versus what they needed and was available (cost) and what they ultimately got out of for him (return), your claim that this is Beane "at his best" is incredibly weak.

 

It's your lame take that I take issue with--I've made that clear several times, your attempts to ignore that and make it about evisceration and torture and now "public apologize" not withstanding.

 

I can't make this simpler for you.

Trading Cody Ford was a salvage but you have to look at beans overall work to evaluate him as a GM and he has been phenomenal the results of the team back that up

Edited August 23, 2022 by John from Riverside

[Ralonzo]

Still haven't seen Hart lose a rep cleanly on drives 3 and 4. Bonitto almost turned on him a couple times but Hart was able to push him wide enough. The Keenum throw-away later on drive 4, Hart and Ford flawlessly pass off a stunt. Granted it's not against the top top players that have made Hart look like a turnstile in the past but man, he's executing.

 

With the Ford trade and Mancz situation, I understand people are worried about OL... but I don't think I would hate it if this edition of Bobby Hart makes the 53.

 

 

[Malazan]

20 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Ha! You know this board better than that. This is just the beginning. We will hear the details of his career for years to come.  

 

..and if he manages to not **** himself on the field during a game...

 

"Did Beane make ANOTHER mistake on the OL with Cody Ford?!"

[JohnNord]

6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

The problem with Cody is that he doesn’t that’s the speed or athleticism to play RT.  You can play him at RG and he’ll do a decent job blocking but he struggles in pass protection.  I’d have to agree with Thad here in the sense that I think there was a chance the Bills move on from Cody.  
 

So rather than eat his salary they get a decent sized pick and clear up a little cap space.  
 

A good trade but man what a whiff the selection of Ford was

[NickelCity]

52 minutes ago, nosejob said:

I think Anderson has a future here.

 

I'm kind of inclined to agree with you...but did you see that uncalled hold he had when keenum was in oh my laaaawwwd

[Mr. WEO]

21 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Trading Cody Ford was a salvage but you have to look at beans overall work to evaluate him as a GM and he has been phenomenal the results of the team back that up

None of my posts in this thread suggest otherwise.  
 

I was simply dissecting a bad take

[Rocky Landing]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't think nobody thought a 5th was possible. It was at the higher end of what was possible but there were lots of us who thought it likely he'd be moved for a day 3 pick. I'd probably have said a 6th or a 7th tbh. Maybe a conditonal 5th of he met performance escalators. 

 

I do think it is about the best they could have done to rescue this situation, but it was always a possible scenario.

I don't think nobody thought you'd be throwing out double negatives.

[BigAl2526]

6 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

But, but, but… I was told that Aaron Kromer had reformed him into a serviceable player…

Even if that is the case, Buffalo has too many offensive linemen, and turning a non-starter or two into draft picks is only common sense.

[Fan in Chicago]

5 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Yes he's such a genius that he traded up for this guy and spent a 2nd round pick only to trade him a few years later for a 5th rounder.

Oh come on with the negativity. Mistakes happen. Cutting your losses early and getting compensation for it is good management 

[without a drought]

9 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I don't think nobody thought you'd be throwing out double negatives.

That's not what he didn't do. 

[MasterStrategist]

5 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

 

The problem with Cody is that he doesn’t that’s the speed or athleticism to play RT.  You can play him at RG and he’ll do a decent job blocking but he struggles in pass protection.  I’d have to agree with Thad here in the sense that I think there was a chance the Bills move on from Cody.  
 

So rather than eat his salary they get a decent sized pick and clear up a little cap space.  
 

A good trade but man what a whiff the selection of Ford was

Agree it was a major whiff.  Thankfully Beane and staff have been very very good at getting talent accumulated outside round 2.

 

We all should call a spade a spade, Ford was a "positional need" pick at the time, trying to find our next RT.  Turned out to be a horrible selection.  He struggled with pass pro in college, and many talent evaluators had him pegged as an IOL.  All around, it just didn't work out, which happens for every NFL team/GM.  Making matters worse, we passed on talented/all-pro WRs that we could have also used at the time, but so did 29 other NFL teams.

 

Getting a 5th round pick in return though, is interesting.  Cards might view him as a fringe starter on their line.   Beane gets credit for salvaging something, like many say.   

 

Overall, I still like our OL heading into this yr, compared to LY, along with Kromers ability to "coach them up".  Not expecting a top 10 line, but likely in the 12-15 range.  Marginal improvement, coupled with a more balanced attack and playcalling, will be enough.

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

6 hours ago, NewEra said:

A 5th round pick for Cody Ford.  Beane is amazing.

I guess turning a lemon into lemonade is amazing. But when you purchased the lemon at the expense of other players it is not so amazing. 

Its why I advocate trading down and getting more picks. We want to believe Beane is smarter than most, but it is still mostly a crap shoot. 

It's pretty damning to think they had Teller, traded him away, then drafted a bust to play RT, moved him to fail at G, and spent a fortune on a decent RT only to move him to G and then cut a year later. Ugly. Doesn't matter much. He got Allen and that is 80% of the job.

[NewEra]

20 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

I guess turning a lemon into lemonade is amazing. But when you purchased the lemon at the expense of other players it is not so amazing. 

Its why I advocate trading down and getting more picks. We want to believe Beane is smarter than most, but it is still mostly a crap shoot. 

It's pretty damning to think they had Teller, traded him away, then drafted a bust to play RT, moved him to fail at G, and spent a fortune on a decent RT only to move him to G and then cut a year later. Ugly. Doesn't matter much. He got Allen and that is 80% of the job.

The move to trade Cody Ford for a 5th round pick is amazing…..

 

The drafting of ford was a terrible mistake.  We all know this.  We’ve all known this.  This isn’t new news….. but I fully expected the $**t on everyone’s parade troop to do just that.  You and your boys seem to feast on Senna.  You guys flow like a river 💩 

Edited August 23, 2022 by NewEra