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I don’t think Johnson got the most out of his group and it was noticed by the Coach.

Could be he just doesn’t have a good handle on how to present criticism.  Don’t really care as that’s no longer our problem.

 

Saffold isn’t going to last forever.  Wouldn’t it be great to have Ford step in down the road and not miss a beat?

 

Best move of the off season = Kromer.

 

 

 

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I hope Ford can put it altogether with Kromer.  He's had a lot of chances.  It's been frustrating to watch.  Sometimes being told the cold hard truth is what a guy needs to hear even though he hates hearing it.

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Our O line under Bobby Johnson was shall we say, not very good a lot of the time, I was very happy when I read that Kromer was back,  we really need the O line to perform well throughout the season to have success,  🤞 Sounds like Ford pulled his head out of his backside and has seen the light…, good on him to understand that learning is a lifetime requirement. 
 

Go Bills!!!

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9 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Our O line under Bobby Johnson was shall we say, not very good a lot of the time, I was very happy when I read that Kromer was back,  we really need the O line to perform well throughout the season to have success,  🤞 Sounds like Ford pulled his head out of his backside and has seen the light…, good on him to understand that learning is a lifetime requirement. 
 

Go Bills!!!

I was so glad when Bobby Johnson left.

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I had the Athletic a year or so ago on a crazy good deal, but I didn’t go there too often so I never renewed. Easier to read the Cliff Notes version of the articles on here, thanks CT.

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I think part of the problem with the oline in the past had to do with scheme— specifically, the RPOs we would run. Guys like Ford should not be running RPO’s. They need to just go out and blast some people. With those RPOs, the linemen almost have to block in a very tentative manner.

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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

 

“He’s doing a phenomenal job,” Ford said of Kromer. “I don’t know what that means, coming from me. 

 

 

lol....

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Just now, hemma said:

In the “Hey, it could happen” column —> sometime later in the year, Beane extends Ford.

 

For minimum salary?  Sure.

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2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Sounds like ford had a bit of an attitude/entitlement issue last season.

That was my biggest take-away from the article.  Dion was brutally direct in his assessment of Ford - "reality check", "respecting the challenge and not complaining about it", "not pouting" .  Those are pretty strong words from a peer who also happens to be the leader of the OL - was kind of striking to me he aired that out.

 

The Kromer angle was more about getting Ford to open his eyes and take some responsibility for himself.  More from the article:

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“(Kromer) doesn’t sugarcoat anything,” Dawkins said. “He’ll tell him exactly what he doesn’t want to hear. He’ll say, ‘This is f'ing horrible,’ or, ‘You think that you’re doing it right, but you’re not.’

 

“Cody’s heard that before, but now it’s from a different face. So now it’s not, ‘Oh, that’s Bobby being Bobby.’ Now you have two people saying it, so now you’re the one that’s wrong and not them.”

 

Excellent article - if Ford does turn it around it seems it will be largely based on accepting responsibility for his play and actually doing the work to become better. 

 

 

3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

From yesterday’s Athletic (honestly, if you don’t have an Athletic subscription by now, your phone should be confiscated):

 

https://theathletic.com/3524555/2022/08/20/bills-cody-ford-training-camp/?source=user_shared_article
 

Ford admitted the attitude adjustment was necessary and overdue.

 

He and Dawkins cited new offensive line coach Aaron Kromer has been a significant factor. Asked about the difference between Kromer and previous assistant Bobby Johnson, Ford responded with eight seconds of silence. The corners of his lips curled upward as he mulled his reply.

 

“He’s doing a phenomenal job,” Ford said of Kromer. “I don’t know what that means, coming from me. But the way we’ve been coached and the techniques that we’ve learned is why I say there’s been so much improvement.”

I'm glad you posted this - I had just read the article and was about to post something here.  To me though, the headline is "Dion on Ford" - not "Ford on Kromer" - very direct comments from Dion on Ford

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1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said:

agree

 

It's the best sports writing since SI was in its heyday.  I hate paying subscriptions as much as anybody but this one is worth it.

Back in that heyday, my favorite subscription was The Football News. It was a great little paper that was delivered by mail every week. It was costly by online standards, but it was worth every penny. The Athletic - for just Bills news - is not worth it IMO.

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3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

From yesterday’s Athletic (honestly, if you don’t have an Athletic subscription by now, your phone should be confiscated):

 

That is silly. Some people do not read websites on phones.

2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

Just wait until you have to deal with the athletic’s (completely non-existent) customer service… you might change your tune then. There is no way to even talk to a live person. If their email bot can’t figure out what you’re asking you are SOL. I had a payment issue once and it was a total nightmare.

 

I ended up eventually re-subscribing but only because I got a deal for $10 for the year. I’d never even think about spending anything near full price on the athletic. IMO their Buffalo coverage isn’t as good as it used to be. It was a lot better when the athletic first came out.

 

I was constantly being sent baseball articles and I selected no interest in baseball.    There is no use selecting interests (mine was Bills, minor in Sabres, a few Olympics sports) but I think their algoritm uses "top 10 matches: type so if nothing matches they send you other stuff just to show you "what else you could read".

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It will be quite the story and reclamation of a career that matched expectations if Ford stays on team, wins his position back and plays well. 

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1 hour ago, Rico said:

I had the Athletic a year or so ago on a crazy good deal, but I didn’t go there too often so I never renewed. Easier to read the Cliff Notes version of the articles on here, thanks CT.

Check your email every now and then. I usually cancel it after promo expires, month or two later I get 3 mos at $1.... rinse repeat lol I spend about $9/yr for 9mos

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14 minutes ago, wjag said:

It will be quite the story and reclamation of a career that matched expectations if Ford stays on team, wins his position back and plays well. 

That would be quite the story.  The question is would you pay him if that happens?  I don’t really know the answer myself.

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3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

From yesterday’s Athletic (honestly, if you don’t have an Athletic subscription by now, your phone should be confiscated):

 

https://theathletic.com/3524555/2022/08/20/bills-cody-ford-training-camp/?source=user_shared_article
 

Ford admitted the attitude adjustment was necessary and overdue.

 

He and Dawkins cited new offensive line coach Aaron Kromer has been a significant factor. Asked about the difference between Kromer and previous assistant Bobby Johnson, Ford responded with eight seconds of silence. The corners of his lips curled upward as he mulled his reply.

 

“He’s doing a phenomenal job,” Ford said of Kromer. “I don’t know what that means, coming from me. But the way we’ve been coached and the techniques that we’ve learned is why I say there’s been so much improvement.”

 

2 hours ago, davefan66 said:

During and after the game they asked a bunch of the players about the impact of Kromer.  They all had nothing but good to great things to say about his impact in the run game and coordination.  Not sure if our last o-line coach did so much coordination in the run game.


Singletary looked like a beast.  Moss looks like he used to.  Cook is going to be very good.  A run game is very important to keep the ball from the opponent, spell the defense, not get Josh killed with him running.  Hopefully this is what’s needed to put us over the top.

 

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/02/19/rams-aaron-kromer-offensive-line-impact-leave/

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Before he arrived in 2017, the Rams had one of the worst offensive lines in football. Since then, it’s improved significantly, even despite a down year in 2019. Andrew Whitworth has prolonged his career with stellar play, Austin Corbett has turned into a gem of a trade acquisition, Rob Havenstein is a stud at right tackle and several other young players have stepped up.

 

Kromer is a big proponent of developing players at multiple positions along the offensive line.

 

This is all just speculation right now, but few coaches move their offensive linemen around as much as Kromer does.

 

 

You wonder why Superbowl champ let him go by "mutual agreement" and whether established linemen for the Rams will be saying same thing about the new Rams OL coach.  Rams coaching staff was cleaned out.

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