Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Blackshear reminds me of Mike Gilislee, it’ll suck to lose him but all 4 RBs have looked great AND the team clearly loves Jones. there is always a stud preseason RB that we never give a chance to. I would even go back to Lionel Gates, who was our 7th rounder in 2005 and lit it up in preseason. there is a serious bias in the NFL Against late-round RBs. And yet so many late rounder or undrafted guys— when actually given the chance— succeed in the NFL (Priest Holmes, Arian Foster, Willie Parker, Fred Jackson, Terrell Davis, etc.) 2 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: there is always a stud preseason RB that we never give a chance to. I would even go back to Lionel Gates, who was our 7th rounder in 2005 and lit it up in preseason. there is a serious bias in the NFL Against late-round RBs. And yet so many late rounder or undrafted guys— when actually given the chance— succeed in the NFL (Priest Holmes, Arian Foster, Willie Parker, Fred Jackson, Terrell Davis, etc.) All pre 2010. League has changed. 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: there is always a stud preseason RB that we never give a chance to. I would even go back to Lionel Gates, who was our 7th rounder in 2005 and lit it up in preseason. there is a serious bias in the NFL Against late-round RBs. And yet so many late rounder or undrafted guys— when actually given the chance— succeed in the NFL (Priest Holmes, Arian Foster, Willie Parker, Fred Jackson, Terrell Davis, etc.) Oh for sure, plenty who fade away into nothingness also. I love Blackshear’s potential as much as everyone else, but realistically I think he’s viewed as a developmental P-Squad RB with RB 4/ST Demon hopes. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I don't understand why you would keep players who do not play ST at all when they will get maybe 4-5 snaps a week or will be inactive due to not playing ST. It's not like you are keeping a 5th or 6th string player who is going to be playing 35 snaps a game versus a guy who only plays ST. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: All pre 2010. League has changed. i agree that the league has changed, but in a way that has actually made top-end RB value even more worthless. There really are no more premium running backs, outside of like two guys. And everything is really a time share. That’s what makes it frustrating when teams still won’t give these undrafted guys a chance. Odds are— if actually given a chance— Blackshear will outproduce Devin. But we will never know. 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I like Blackshear. I think you just find a way to keep him on the roster. If that means you lose Moss, so be it. Singletary and Cook are going to be the main guys anyway. Keep Blackshear as the 3, let him play ST and work him in here and there. That’s 3 guys they can make plays out of the backfield and you can really be explosive all throughout the game RB wise. Moss just looks way too slow for my liking and Duke..it’s a numbers game 1 Quote
Apocalypse Nuts Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Jim said: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill. OMG!!! Probably the best reply I will receive!!!! Literally my greatest movie quote ever! It may be a awhile, but please allow me to buy you dinner/a drink someday!!! You f…….ing rule my friend!!!!!! Edited August 21, 2022 by Apocalypse Nuts 1 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I like Blackshear. I think you just find a way to keep him on the roster. If that means you lose Moss, so be it. Singletary and Cook are going to be the main guys anyway. Keep Blackshear as the 3, let him play ST and work him in here and there. That’s 3 guys they can make plays out of the backfield and you can really be explosive all throughout the game RB wise. Moss just looks way too slow for my liking and Duke..it’s a numbers game You’d dump Moss, who’s looked really good vs starters and dump him for Blackshear, who’s looked very good vs 3rd stringers? Quote
Apocalypse Nuts Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, Jim said: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill. I simply cannot express how much I love this response. I have spent many hours trying to be able to repeat this amazing line. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i agree that the league has changed, but in a way that has actually made top-end RB value even more worthless. There really are no more premium running backs, outside of like two guys. And everything is really a time share. That’s what makes it frustrating when teams still won’t give these undrafted guys a chance. Odds are— if actually given a chance— Blackshear will outproduce Devin. But we will never know. Not sure about Singletary as we haven't seen Blackshear run against a starting defense yet. In general though, I agree that the abundance of running backs along with the devaluation of their position give late round/undrafted RB's fewer opportunities to prove themselves. 1 Quote
Motor26 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: In my estimation, the Bills are currently employing 68 rosterable players. (Not including Boettger and A. Smith, who will be on PUP and suspended, respectively.) Cut 15 of them to reach 53. In your opinion, who should get the boot? 👢 Allen Keenum Barkley Singletary Moss Cook D. Johnson Blackshear T. Jones Gilliam Diggs Davis McKenzie Crowder Shakir Kumerow Hodgins Austin Stevenson Knox Howard Sweeney Morris Dawkins Saffold Morse Bates Brown Quessenberry Ford Mancz Hart Doyle Van Roten Bass Araiza Haack Ferguson Miller Oliver D. Jones Rousseau Epenesa Phillips Settle Basham Lawson Bryant Ankou Love Edmunds Milano Dodson Bernard Giles-Harris Matakevich Spector White Elam T. Johnson Jackson Benford Neal Lewis Poyer Hyde J. Johnson Hamlin Forgot about Luke Tenuta as well. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Keep in mind, this roster isn’t playing 16 games and hoping for 8-9 wins. The expectations are 20+ and with that many games you load up on talent. I’d try to hide Duke on the squad as well. Quote
NickelCity Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) Be shocked if Sweeney makes it. If they're gonna put that much stock in TE (Knox, Howard, Gilliam and a fourth...) it's Morris. Edited August 21, 2022 by NickelCity 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: You’d dump Moss, who’s looked really good vs starters and dump him for Blackshear, who’s looked very good vs 3rd stringers? I’m kind of going off of what Moss showed last year. I feel like it’s fools gold with him. He’s ok but nothing special IMO. And last year I was kind of just done with him. He’s looked pretty good but at best he’s going to be the 3rd guy here. I certainly don’t feel like Moss is considerably better then Blackshear. I’d rather go with the younger, cheaper faster guy. Quote
Doc Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I'd say Morris over Sweeney, Hart over Mancz and Spector over Giles-Harris. 8 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’m kind of going off of what Moss showed last year. I feel like it’s fools gold with him. He’s ok but nothing special IMO. And last year I was kind of just done with him. He’s looked pretty good but at best he’s going to be the 3rd guy here. I certainly don’t feel like Moss is considerably better then Blackshear. I’d rather go with the younger, cheaper faster guy. Moss was injured last year. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I’m kind of going off of what Moss showed last year. I feel like it’s fools gold with him. He’s ok but nothing special IMO. And last year I was kind of just done with him. He’s looked pretty good but at best he’s going to be the 3rd guy here. I certainly don’t feel like Moss is considerably better then Blackshear. I’d rather go with the younger, cheaper faster guy. Wasn’t Moss banged up? I think the coaching staff not giving him any reps vs even the 2s is telling where he’s at with his development. Moss may not be flashy, but he’s consistent with little things. Good hands and great blocker. Quote
buffblue Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: In my estimation, the Bills are currently employing 68 rosterable players. (Not including Boettger and A. Smith, who will be on PUP and suspended, respectively.) Cut 15 of them to reach 53. In your opinion, who should get the boot? 👢 Allen Keenum Barkley Singletary Moss Cook D. Johnson Blackshear T. Jones Gilliam Diggs Davis McKenzie Crowder Shakir Kumerow Hodgins Austin Stevenson Knox Howard Sweeney Morris Dawkins Saffold Morse Bates Brown Quessenberry Ford Mancz Hart Doyle Van Roten Bass Araiza Haack Ferguson Miller Oliver D. Jones Rousseau Epenesa Phillips Settle Basham Lawson Bryant Ankou Love Edmunds Milano Dodson Bernard Giles-Harris Matakevich Spector White Elam T. Johnson Jackson Benford Neal Lewis Poyer Hyde J. Johnson Hamlin Can't argue with much of this. Can nitpick here and there but overall I like it. Just don't see them keeping 6 LB's Quote
Doc Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, buffblue said: Can't argue with much of this. Can nitpick here and there but overall I like it. Just don't see them keeping 6 LB's They kept 6 to start last season. 1 Quote
mabden Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) Cut either Harris or Makatevich, keep Spector Edited August 21, 2022 by mabden Quote
buffblue Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: They kept 6 to start last season. Sure it's possible again, but I think they are more likely to slip one of the last LB cuts on the practice squad and preserve someone else at a more premium position Quote
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