Don Otreply Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 To much alcohol can cause people to say things that they otherwise would consider to be…, shall we say silly , Quote
BringBackFergy Posted August 21, 2022 Author Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 1:45 AM, Mc1320 said: No one has ever wasted a roster spot exclusively for a holder in the history of the NFL you jackwagon. Expand How boring it must be to go through life never trying something new. On 8/21/2022 at 2:19 AM, Big Turk said: For what purpose? Araiza has been fine on all his holds. This is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard and on this board that's saying something Expand Hold on. It was eight short years ago when Wrecks Ryan kept a “kickoff specialist” on this team…and Ryan knows a lot more about football than you. I would argue a “holding specialist” is equally (if not more) important and worthy of a roster spot for a stacked team. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I will say, I love that there is a multiple page thread on the holder, after the presumptive starting punter/holder has done a good job. Sign of a deep roster. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 3:52 AM, BringBackFergy said: It was eight short years ago when Wrecks Ryan kept a “kickoff specialist” on this team…and Ryan knows a lot more about football than you. I would argue a “holding specialist” is equally (if not more) important and worthy of a roster spot for a stacked team. Expand And before that Bills Head Coach Wade Phillips employed Chris Watson as a "Punt Catcher." It's sad that the younger members of the community have such disdain for the history and knowledge that the older members possess. A lot of our members here should read more (particularly from people like yourself) and post less. They might learn a thing or two. 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 12:24 AM, chongli said: Agreed. Plus, the Bills actually had two punters and one kicker in 2015 and 2016: Dan Carpenter (K) for field goals Jordan Gay (P) for kick-offs Colton Schmidt (P) for punts Expand In Rex's defense, he was/is an idiot. On 8/21/2022 at 4:20 AM, Sierra Foothills said: And before that Bills Head Coach Wade Phillips employed Chris Watson as a "Punt Catcher." It's sad that the younger members of the community have such disdain for the history and knowledge that the older members possess. A lot of our members here should read more (particularly from people like yourself) and post less. They might learn a thing or two. Expand Great defensive coordinator. Mediocre head coach. 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 2:44 AM, ExiledInIllinois said: I smell what you're grillin'! We need a left-foot too! How deeeep is that! Expand You made me think of an interesting situation. If Bass was hurt (assuming leg injury), would he still play and hold for Ariaza? Quote
MJS Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 12:12 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’ll revolt if we keep Tawain Jones over either. Expand Start sharpening your pitchfork. That's exactly what will happen. 1 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 12:02 AM, BringBackFergy said: Food for thought. Our team is stacked and DEEEEP. We didn’t even have a chance to see Punt God hold for Bass much under pressure. Aren’t we all hoping to have a guy that can hold the ball properly when the game is on the line? Keep Bass - Obviously Keep Araiza - 78 yd punts. Obviously. Keep Haack - FG Holder Specialist It’s never been done (to my knowledge) but well worth it. Fire away. Expand Will never happen, roster spots are way to valuable to keep a place holder, the Bills would prefer to keep an extra WR OR DE Quote
mrags Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 3:52 AM, BringBackFergy said: How boring it must be to go through life never trying something new. Hold on. It was eight short years ago when Wrecks Ryan kept a “kickoff specialist” on this team…and Ryan knows a lot more about football than you. I would argue a “holding specialist” is equally (if not more) important and worthy of a roster spot for a stacked team. Expand Don’t forget that McDermott absolutely loves his special teams aces. Haack is 100% a holding ACE. It’s why we picked him up last year to become with. We sure don’t want to be like the Packers this past year and losing games because Bojo couldn’t hold. On 8/21/2022 at 4:20 AM, Sierra Foothills said: And before that Bills Head Coach Wade Phillips employed Chris Watson as a "Punt Catcher." It's sad that the younger members of the community have such disdain for the history and knowledge that the older members possess. A lot of our members here should read more (particularly from people like yourself) and post less. They might learn a thing or two. Expand Way too many young kids that think they know everything here. They don’t realize that guys like you and Fergie have been around the block for years. They’ll never understand it either. Just sad. 1 Quote
Irv Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) No holding specialist. The 10 yard penalties will cripple the offense. Edited August 21, 2022 by Irv 5 Quote
Doc Brown Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 6:02 AM, Irv said: No holding specialist. The 10 yard penalties will cripple the offense. Expand Took me a second. 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 1:06 AM, without a drought said: Who is going to hold the ball on tee for kickoffs when it's windy out? The Bills score a lot, they kickoff way more than they punt and it's rather windy at highmark. Expand Illegal use of thread to push domed stadium agenda. Loss of post, repeat 3rd down. On 8/21/2022 at 4:20 AM, Sierra Foothills said: And before that Bills Head Coach Wade Phillips employed Chris Watson as a "Punt Catcher." Expand Looking back, I think there were years the Bills had designated 'Punt Droppers'. 🙁 On 8/21/2022 at 4:46 AM, The Wiz said: You made me think of an interesting situation. If Bass was hurt (assuming leg injury), would he still play and hold for Ariaza? Expand Does 'ego' count as an injury? 1 1 Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 12:24 AM, chongli said: Agreed. Plus, the Bills actually had two punters and one kicker in 2015 and 2016: Dan Carpenter (K) for field goals Jordan Gay (P) for kick-offs Colton Schmidt (P) for punts Expand Actually, they had NONE! 1 Quote
BringBackFergy Posted August 21, 2022 Author Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 5:56 AM, mrags said: Don’t forget that McDermott absolutely loves his special teams aces. Haack is 100% a holding ACE. It’s why we picked him up last year to become with. We sure don’t want to be like the Packers this past year and losing games because Bojo couldn’t hold Expand By keeping Haack, not only are we assuring consistent ball placement for Bass in all kinds of weather, but the kicking room currently has great chemistry (the three of them work well together during kicking meetings). Why cut Haack when some other big bodied dufus will never see the field? 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 12:00 PM, BringBackFergy said: ...when some other big bodied dufus will never see the field? Expand Words CAN hurt...🤨 1 Quote
YattaOkasan Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 (edited) On 8/21/2022 at 12:00 PM, BringBackFergy said: By keeping Haack, not only are we assuring consistent ball placement for Bass in all kinds of weather, but the kicking room currently has great chemistry (the three of them work well together during kicking meetings). Why cut Haack when some other big bodied dufus will never see the field? Expand I just like up thread where you say it could net us 24-27 points. I don’t think bass misses 8 FG all season so that number is off. We might need that big doofus in case another doofus gets injured. To save maybe 12-15 points on the high side (he missed 6 FG and 2 XP with Bojo as his holder and 4 FG with Haack). Edited August 21, 2022 by YattaOkasan Quote
ILBillsfan Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/21/2022 at 12:02 AM, BringBackFergy said: Food for thought. Our team is stacked and DEEEEP. We didn’t even have a chance to see Punt God hold for Bass much under pressure. Aren’t we all hoping to have a guy that can hold the ball properly when the game is on the line? Keep Bass - Obviously Keep Araiza - 78 yd punts. Obviously. Keep Haack - FG Holder Specialist It’s never been done (to my knowledge) but well worth it. Fire away. Expand Araiza held every one of the XP attempts Saturday, hard pass Quote
BuffaloBill Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 I think th OP like to hold his balls. He therefore thinks it’s a special skill. Quote
Your Brown Eye Posted August 21, 2022 Posted August 21, 2022 Maybe while we are at it, since it's never been done before (lol), we can keep a player just as a "holding the football on the kickoff-tee on windy days specialist" lol Quote
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