Postgame thread:Bills 27 - Colts 24

[JerseyBills]

22 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

I honestly think 10yards shorter means the punt return guy fields it at the 20 yd with room to get up to speed.

 

 BY  booming it, it's placed at the 20 (its only 25 on kickoffs ?)

 

NOW, I do agree if it's downed anywhere inside it's better.. But as you said either way it was impressive.

If I'm a coach and we're punting from the 10 yard line, I'll take the opponent starting at their 20 everytime all day everyday and twice on Sundays!

[Shaw66]

8 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Yes! With apologies to the 6,6”, wing span of a Bald Eagle #49, THIS is the way to play MLB. 
 

sorry, Tremaine 🤷‍♂️

My reaction watching Spector was that he wasn't very good in pass coverage, but he's a classic run-stopping MLB.  That video of him is great.  

 

And to your point, it's amazing to me that Edmunds, with his athletic ability and his speed, is unable to play the run like that.  I mean, really.  Spector isn't some kind of great natural talent.  He's just paid attention to his coaches, learned his reads, and trained himself to move his feet, stay in position, play off the blocker.   Why can't Edmunds do that?

11 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

He looks like a very instinctual player. Like how as soon as he catches the ball he twists his body forward and lowers his shoulder to brace for impact. I don't know if he has a super high ceiling but he clearly belongs on an NFL field, you can see it right away.

I noticed this during the game and on video.  Whether it's instinct or just discipline, he seems to do things the right way.  His release, his hands catching, his turns upfield.  I think people have made the Cooper Kupp comparison, and it's apt.  That's how Kupp plays.  

 

I think he'll see a lot of playing time.  

[Shaw66]

10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Sure seems like it's becoming more common, or at least more sought after, for offensive "skill position players" to be kind of "positionless" with their skill sets and usage. TEs who run WR routes. WRs who take handoffs. RBs who spilt out wide. QBs who are short-yardage FBs. Both sides of the ball have seen more ambiguity with respect to clearly defined player positions and roles. I'm sure there's plenty of room for WRs to play both inside and outside, to motion around the formation, etc. I'd like to see more and more of this from the Bills, with the unique and well-rounded talents they have in the room. 

That's exactly WHY they have "unique and well-rounded talents" in the room.   That's very much part of how McDermott wants to play. 

[aceman_16]

45 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

My reaction watching Spector was that he wasn't very good in pass coverage, but he's a classic run-stopping MLB.  That video of him is great.  

 

And to your point, it's amazing to me that Edmunds, with his athletic ability and his speed, is unable to play the run like that.  I mean, really.  Spector isn't some kind of great natural talent.  He's just paid attention to his coaches, learned his reads, and trained himself to move his feet, stay in position, play off the blocker.   Why can't Edmunds do that?

I noticed this during the game and on video.  Whether it's instinct or just discipline, he seems to do things the right way.  His release, his hands catching, his turns upfield.  I think people have made the Cooper Kupp comparison, and it's apt.  That's how Kupp plays.  

 

I think he'll see a lot of playing time.  

Edmunds MAY do that with a better DLine in front of him. This year we will see.

[Rumblinstumblin]

13 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Er, we just drafted him, isn't that kind of a given?

No, the guy from tcu got cut who was a lb

[wjag]

1 hour ago, Lost said:

 

If only we could combine Edmunds size/athleticism and the instincts of these rookies into some Frankenstein hybrid LB.   

 

Or you would have Ray Lewis..

[OldTimer1960]

On 8/14/2022 at 6:44 AM, BobbyC81 said:

Keenum tried to hit the TEs early but his throws were too high.

True - I remember the missed one to Sweeney in the end zone.  

 

Keenum did not look comfortable at all.  I think a fair amount of that is that the OL was a patch-work (being kind) and a rookie WR and ST player playing WR who were matched against many of Indy's starters.  If Keenum doesn't look a little better next week, I'll start to worry, but he has shown that he can play competently in the NFL, so too soon for me to panic on him yet.

[Rochesterfan]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

If I'm a coach and we're punting from the 10 yard line, I'll take the opponent starting at their 20 everytime all day everyday and twice on Sundays!

 

I agree but - the fear is - if the returner had started 5 yards back (and teams will learn) - that ball was 20 yards outside coverage.  
 

If the returner catches that - he has 20 yards to set up blocks and get to full speed before the nearest Bill is around.

 

The Hang time was still an issue.  I get the excitement, but it worked because the returner lined up like it was a normal punter.

 

I love the kick, but I hope he can get some better hang time to protect the return team.

 

 

 

 

[Behindenemylines]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

If I'm a coach and we're punting from the 10 yard line, I'll take the opponent starting at their 20 everytime all day everyday and twice on Sundays!

I’m anticipating we don’t need to punt twice on Sundays😁

[Son of a K-Gun]

11 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Spector! OMG!😲

 

 

Watching the game I kept thinking that AJ Klein was playing great...good showing by the rookie.

[f0neguy]

According to reports out of camp, he can punt with good hang time.  If the returner doesn’t know what’s coming it’s to our advantage.  Returner cheats up, blast it over his head.  Backs up 10-15 yards, go for hang time.  I see it as a weapon, not cause for concern.

[Son of a K-Gun]

5 minutes ago, f0neguy said:

According to reports out of camp, he can punt with good hang time.  If the returner doesn’t know what’s coming it’s to our advantage.  Returner cheats up, blast it over his head.  Backs up 10-15 yards, go for hang time.  I see it as a weapon, not cause for concern.

This is exactly how I think the Bills will utilize him.  

[Coffeesforclosers]

Man, that's exactly what I was looking for, a lot of promising film from the rookie class.

 

I just wish Beane could draft OL like he drafts WRs and the defensive back 7.

[Mango]

48 minutes ago, f0neguy said:

According to reports out of camp, he can punt with good hang time.  If the returner doesn’t know what’s coming it’s to our advantage.  Returner cheats up, blast it over his head.  Backs up 10-15 yards, go for hang time.  I see it as a weapon, not cause for concern.

 

If Josh Allen's arm were a leg, the punter would be Matt Araiza. I think we are going to have to deal with some really erratic moments while he figures out how to control the thing. We will get some wow punts for sure. I am sure we run into some issues where he out kicks his coverage and there is a dangerous return. 

[Shaw66]

1 minute ago, Mango said:

 

If Josh Allen's arm were a leg, the punter would be Matt Araiza. I think we are going to have to deal with some really erratic moments while he figures out how to control the thing. We will get some wow punts for sure. I am sure we run into some issues where he out kicks his coverage and there is a dangerous return. 

Recall that Bass was erratic for the first half of his rookie year.   Then the coaching and the culture took over.   I hope we see the same the same settling in with Araiza.

[Mango]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

Recall that Bass was erratic for the first half of his rookie year.   Then the coaching and the culture took over.   I hope we see the same the same settling in with Araiza.

 

If he can figure out how max hangtime or good accuracy, he is a really dangerous weapon. The ability to flip the field 180 degrees when pinned inside your own 20 is basically a cheat code. 3 and out at your own 15? NBD, opponent starts their drive at their own 19. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by Mango
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[YoloinOhio]

 

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

The Bills second string would win the AFC South.

[Warcodered]

11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Doesn't seem like the 2nd team stayed in too long either.

[HiMark]

2 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

I agree but - the fear is - if the returner had started 5 yards back (and teams will learn) - that ball was 20 yards outside coverage.  
 

If the returner catches that - he has 20 yards to set up blocks and get to full speed before the nearest Bill is around.

 

The Hang time was still an issue.  I get the excitement, but it worked because the returner lined up like it was a normal punter.

 

I love the kick, but I hope he can get some better hang time to protect the return team.

 

 

 

 

The return did NOT line up like it was a normal punt, he got the advance memo, and was way back.  Looked to me like Indy was running a double return formation, we used to do that before McD. The returner was ready for a 60 yarder. He got an 80 yarder