Bills disappointed in Elam's potential to contribute this year? (unfounded internet rumor)

[Jauronimo]

21 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Didn't that guy used to post here years ago? I feel like I remember the name

I think all of those miscreants used to post here but didn't last very long for reasons which are a mystery.

[FilthyBeast]

If there is any truth to this expect the Bills to make a move for a veteran DB sooner than later, either FA or trade.

 

One thing is for certain though right now is that you can't tell the difference between a 6th round rookie DB and 1st round rookie DB when looking at how Benford and Elam have performed respectively. In fact it's not even crazy to suggest that Benford looks like the better player and 1st round pick so far.

 

Either way don't be surprised if this secondary struggles big time the first half of the season especially if White isn't ready until midseason which I still think is the reality many fans aren't understanding.

[The Red King]

Can we change the thread title to read "Bills' fan dissapointed in Elam's potential..." 😁

[Doc]

26 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

If there is any truth to this expect the Bills to make a move for a veteran DB sooner than later, either FA or trade.

 

One thing is for certain though right now is that you can't tell the difference between a 6th round rookie DB and 1st round rookie DB when looking at how Benford and Elam have performed respectively. In fact it's not even crazy to suggest that Benford looks like the better player and 1st round pick so far.

 

Either way don't be surprised if this secondary struggles big time the first half of the season especially if White isn't ready until midseason which I still think is the reality many fans aren't understanding.

 

There isn't.  At least not after Saturday.

[Big Turk]

46 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

There isn't.  At least not after Saturday.

 

I'm not sure our second string defense that was out there isn't better than several teams starting defense. That's scary.

Edited August 15, 2022 by Big Turk

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

I'm not sure our second string defense that was out there isn't better than several teams starting defense. That's scary.

I won’t go that far but I’m liking the depth. 

[Einstein]

On 8/13/2022 at 11:52 AM, Einstein said:

Tough to trust random people on the internet but I found this story from a fan potentially concerning. The fan who wrote this has been a member of that Bills forum for 19 years, so I'm hoping he wouldn't just make this up.

 

"One of the beat writers was at a wedding I was at this past weekend. Not gonna say who. He 'says' that word around camp is that Elam isn’t anywhere near where the Bills had hoped in terms of starting week one or contributing." (link)

 

I know there have been reports that he has struggled at times, but I hadn't yet seen anything that indicates that the Bills are realizing that Elam is just not ready to contribute. Especially upsetting with reports than McDuffie has looked impressive in Chiefs camp. 

 

This random internet source may have been onto something.

 

We are 3/4 through his rookie season and Elam was benched for a second straight week on defense. 

 

Our 1st round pick is playing special teams.

[CoudyBills]

8 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

This random internet source may have been onto something.

 

We are 3/4 through his rookie season and Elam was benched for a second straight week on defense. 

 

Our 1st round pick is playing special teams.

I'd rather not see this brain trust make anymore draft picks if 1st round picks become special teamers.  

Edited December 11, 2022 by CoudyBills
Spell teamer correctly

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Einstein said:

 

This random internet source may have been onto something.

 

We are 3/4 through his rookie season and Elam was benched for a second straight week on defense. 

 

Our 1st round pick is playing special teams.

 

Then maybe he should stop missing tackles in the run game and getting beat in the pass game.

 

If he isn't doing either well, he needs to be off the field. At least the other DBs play the run well for the most part.

 

Obviously the coaches are not happy with something. They see him every day in practice.

 

They've allowed 10 points two games in a row on D. I think overall they are doing fine with him not in there...

 

It's up to him to improve...I am sure the coaches have told him what he needs to work on.

Edited December 12, 2022 by Big Turk

[EmotionallyUnstable]

10 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Then maybe he should stop missing tackles in the run game and getting beat in the pass game.

 

If he isn't doing either well, he needs to be off the field. At least the other DBs play the run well for the most part.

 

Obviously the coaches are not happy with something. They see him every day in practice.

 

They've allowed 10 points two games in a row on D. I think overall they are doing fine with him not in there...

 

It's up to him to improve...I am sure the coaches have told him what he needs to work on.

That may be all well and good.

 

The problem is that when you invest an asset of this caliber into a player, he should be a large contributing factor playing meaningful snaps that have an impact on the game. 
 

Wether it’s on him to improve, or the coaches to get him there, is pointless right now mid-season. The problem is that they HAVE to do this and he, for whatever reason, is not helping this team at a level which you would expect him to

[Donuts and Doritos]

Dane Jackson is NOT good. That Elam, a 1st round pick can't get in the field over him is alarming. He's a border line bust at this pt. That's a bad miss by Beane. I really think Dane is a huge liability that needs to be replaced. If not Elam, then who? Sounded like Rhodes but apparently not. This stubbornness by McD/Frazier may cost this team this year.

 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos

[John from Riverside]

I guess I’m just not understanding the topic Elam was active today and he was out on the field

8 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Dane Jackson is NOT good. That Elam, a 1st round pick can't get in the field over him is alarming. He's a border line bust at this pt. That's a bad miss by Beane. I really think Dane is a huge liability that needs to be replaced. If not Elam, then who? Sounded like Rhodes but apparently not. This stubbornness by McD/Frazier may cost this team this year.

 

That is a McDermitt decision he likes his veterans

[Gunsgoodtime]

Cut him now

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

I guess I’m just not understanding the topic Elam was active today and he was out on the field

 

Elam wasn’t on the field today.

 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I would blame Beane not Elam

 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, Einstein said:

 

Elam wasn’t on the field today.

 

Are we sure about that? I haven’t taken a look at his rep count, but I thought I saw his jersey.

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Are we sure about that? I haven’t taken a look at his rep count, but I thought I saw his jersey.

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[Donuts and Doritos]

52 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I guess I’m just not understanding the topic Elam was active today and he was out on the field

That is a McDermitt decision he likes his veterans

 

Until the last drive Dane was burned a lot in the second half. He's been bad the last 3 to 4 games. He's undersized & reacts late. It's been commented on by Joe Bascaglia, Greg Cosell & others & showed up today. This stubborn insistence to rely on Vets by McD is a short sighted weakness. He should play the best player & Dane ain't it. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Donuts and Doritos

[Playoffs?]

I thought Elam was doing ok early on. I’m surprised he’s this deep in the doghouse. 

[Billz4ever]

2 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

I thought Elam was doing ok early on. I’m surprised he’s this deep in the doghouse. 

I'll take what I've seen from Elam over what we've gotten out of Jackson the last several games any day. Teams clearly go into games with the mindset that they can pick on Dane easy and often.