Doc Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Me: They aren’t going to be able to prove intent Hur: We’re not able to prove intent It’s right there in the report. It’s not that confusing. Wait, you're telling me that he knew he had classified documents at least as far back as 2017, didn't return them...and that's not proof of intent to keep them? Or that he didn't intend to show them to an unauthorized person? But again, we're not talking about criminal charges for him. Because there's no need. Everyone sees what he did was no different than what Trump did but that there's a 2-tiered system of justice. And again, the worst part of it was Hur calling him senile as far back as 2017. If you don't think Joke's handlers aren't scrambling for his replacement... Edited February 10 by Doc 1
John from Riverside Posted February 10 Posted February 10 8 hours ago, JDHillFan said: Your claim all along has been that it’s all good because Biden complied with the request to return documents. Hur’s report makes it clear they aren’t charging him because he’s too feeble to stand trial, not because he was a good citizen for turning them in. You are actually trying to take a victory lap? I don’t think there’s a victory lap to be taken here I this whole classified document thing very seriously probably because I’m personally invested Both were wrong But it is important to go to distinction of why there is a criminal case going on here and the two situations are different 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Wait, you're telling me that he knew he had classified documents at least as far back as 2017, didn't return them...and that's not proof of intent to keep them? Or that he didn't intend to show them to an unauthorized person? Literally, in the special counsel findings, they said that Biden had staff that didn’t do what they were supposed to do literally in Biden’s press conference. He took blame for not taking more of an oversight role on his staff. 2
ChiGoose Posted February 10 Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, Doc said: Wait, you're telling me that he knew he had classified documents at least as far back as 2017, didn't return them...and that's not proof of intent to keep them? Or that he didn't intend to show them to an unauthorized person? But again, we're not talking about criminal charges for him. Because there's no need. Everyone sees what he did was no different than what Trump did but that there's a 2-tiered system of justice. And again, the worst part of it was Hur calling him senile as far back as 2017. If you don't think Joke's handlers aren't scrambling for his replacement... You should try reading the report. Even just the summary. As Hur explains, what they could present to the jury is that Biden said he had classified documents in his house in 2017. That’s about it. Hur tried to find any additional corroborating evidence that put the documents there at that time but could not find any. Biden has a laundry list of defenses to raise doubts about his intent. No prosecutor would press this case. Hur also explains why Trump’s case is different from Biden’s and why Trump’s actions support an indictment. The documents are public, read them for yourself. 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 hours ago, ChiGoose said: You should try reading the report. Even just the summary. As Hur explains, what they could present to the jury is that Biden said he had classified documents in his house in 2017. That’s about it. Hur tried to find any additional corroborating evidence that put the documents there at that time but could not find any. Biden has a laundry list of defenses to raise doubts about his intent. No prosecutor would press this case. Hur also explains why Trump’s case is different from Biden’s and why Trump’s actions support an indictment. The documents are public, read them for yourself. It makes zero difference. If we were to find out Trump was selling secrets, and he was on tape doing so, they would still defend him. These people are gone. 1
SydneyBillsFan Posted February 10 Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Doc said: Wait, you're telling me that he knew he had classified documents at least as far back as 2017, didn't return them...and that's not proof of intent to keep them? Or that he didn't intend to show them to an unauthorized person? But again, we're not talking about criminal charges for him. Because there's no need. Everyone sees what he did was no different than what Trump did but that there's a 2-tiered system of justice. And again, the worst part of it was Hur calling him senile as far back as 2017. If you don't think Joke's handlers aren't scrambling for his replacement... No Doc - it's even worse than that: Trump - took documents as president and stored them in his home surrounded by 24/7 security guards. Biden - took documents when he wasn't president and kept them in a decrepit box in his insecure garage - which he may have forgotten to close or lock on more than one occasion. But of course, ABC, CNN and MSNBC will say "nothing to see here". As the old saying goes: "if it wasn't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all". 2 1
ChiGoose Posted February 10 Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: No Doc - it's even worse than that: Trump - took documents as president and stored them in his home surrounded by 24/7 security guards. Biden - took documents when he wasn't president and kept them in a decrepit box in his insecure garage - which he may have forgotten to close or lock on more than one occasion. But of course, ABC, CNN and MSNBC will say "nothing to see here". As the old saying goes: "if it wasn't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all". I don’t understand how people still get it this wrong when the reports are public info. Just read them! 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted February 10 Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said: No Doc - it's even worse than that: Trump - took documents as president and stored them in his home surrounded by 24/7 security guards. Biden - took documents when he wasn't president and kept them in a decrepit box in his insecure garage - which he may have forgotten to close or lock on more than one occasion. But of course, ABC, CNN and MSNBC will say "nothing to see here". As the old saying goes: "if it wasn't for double standards, the left would have no standards at all". Yeah you left the part out where he lied about having them, weird....? And the part about showing random people without clearance. That's no big deal for you eh? Wow you people are lost. 1 1
BillStime Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 10 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yeah you left the part out where he lied about having them, weird....? And the part about showing random people without clearance. That's no big deal for you eh? Wow you people are lost. Yeah - our resident Australian also failed to mention that Trump’s motor inn in Florida was a revolving door with random people, pedophiles, and Chinese ”trespassers” who crept past that 24/7 security. But yes - tell us more about canceling those pedos. It’s so funny how hard these idiots try to downplay how Trump obstructed justice w these sensitive documents. He literally could have returned them and all would be forgotten but as usual - the POS thought he was above the law and could sell these documents for top dollar. They were literally an insurance policy for him to get out of all his mounting debt. F him because it’s all about him
Westside Posted February 10 Posted February 10 7 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: It makes zero difference. If we were to find out bribem was selling secrets, and he was on tape doing so, they would still defend him. These people are gone. FIFY Never let the facts get in the way of a good persecution. You are a hypocrite of the highest order Ron, congratulations on your achievement! 1
BillStime Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Westside said: FIFY Never let the facts get in the way of a good persecution. You are a hypocrite of the highest order Ron, congratulations on your achievement! The BIG Lie lmao
aristocrat Posted February 10 Posted February 10 too old and mentally unable to undergo a trial but fit to be president and run for another four years. lol. 2
Tommy Callahan Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Lol. Receipts all over this thread. The king is like " they won't read the report" So much cope going on by the fan club
ChiGoose Posted February 10 Posted February 10 15 minutes ago, aristocrat said: too old and mentally unable to undergo a trial but fit to be president and run for another four years. lol. I really just don’t understand how people can read the report and come to the conclusion that he’s not being charged because he’s mentally unfit. It’s written in fairly plain language. I wouldn’t think you’d need a law degree to understand it.
Doc Posted February 10 Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Literally, in the special counsel findings, they said that Biden had staff that didn’t do what they were supposed to do literally in Biden’s press conference. He took blame for not taking more of an oversight role on his staff. 10 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: You should try reading the report. Even just the summary. As Hur explains, what they could present to the jury is that Biden said he had classified documents in his house in 2017. That’s about it. Hur tried to find any additional corroborating evidence that put the documents there at that time but could not find any. Biden has a laundry list of defenses to raise doubts about his intent. No prosecutor would press this case. Hur also explains why Trump’s case is different from Biden’s and why Trump’s actions support an indictment. The documents are public, read them for yourself. I don't care who took the material and I don't need to read Hur's lame defenses for Joke. Again I'm not advocating being petty like the Dems are with Trump and charging Joke criminally. All I needed to hear was what most of us already suspected: that Joke knew he had classified materials in his possession. That came from the horse's mouth and he had no reason to lie in that situation. That destroys the plausible deniability angle and shows he intended to keep it. Showing it to his ghostwriter adds another layer of criminality and that is corroborated by the ghostwriter deleting conversations he had with Joke after learning about the investigation. You would think they would want to charge the ghostwriter but they won't, as is typical of this corrupt Admin. So again, I say the Dems can do the right thing and end the investigation into Trump, or continue with the charade and sink their chances even further. As Sherpa said, Joke is done. But not because of the documents, but because of Hur essentially saying Joke is too senile to stand trial.
ChiGoose Posted February 10 Posted February 10 28 minutes ago, Doc said: I don't care who took the material and I don't need to read Hur's lame defenses for Joke. Again I'm not advocating being petty like the Dems are with Trump and charging Joke criminally. All I needed to hear was what most of us already suspected: that Joke knew he had classified materials in his possession. That came from the horse's mouth and he had no reason to lie in that situation. That destroys the plausible deniability angle and shows he intended to keep it. Showing it to his ghostwriter adds another layer of criminality and that is corroborated by the ghostwriter deleting conversations he had with Joke after learning about the investigation. You would think they would want to charge the ghostwriter but they won't, as is typical of this corrupt Admin. So again, I say the Dems can do the right thing and end the investigation into Trump, or continue with the charade and sink their chances even further. As Sherpa said, Joke is done. But not because of the documents, but because of Hur essentially saying Joke is too senile to stand trial. Yes, you’ve made it abundantly clear that you do not care or even understand facts or the law or how prosecutions work and simply want an excuse to feel good about rooting for a criminal. 1
Doc Posted February 10 Posted February 10 44 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Yes, you’ve made it abundantly clear that you do not care or even understand facts or the law or how prosecutions work and simply want an excuse to feel good about rooting for a criminal. Your feelz are duly noted. But they're opinions and you know what opinions are like...
BillStime Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 Just now, Doc said: Your feelz are duly noted. But they're opinions and you know what opinions are like... 👆🤡👇😂 feelz On 6/15/2023 at 2:26 PM, Doc said: He felt he won. More feelz On 2/15/2022 at 11:22 AM, Doc said: Worse than Watergate, 9/11, WWII and January 6th combined.
ChiGoose Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Doc said: Your feelz are duly noted. But they're opinions and you know what opinions are like... You’re so far down your little rabbit hole that you cannot even differentiate facts from opinions. You’d benefit from cancelling your internet service. It seems to have rotted your brain.
Doc Posted February 10 Posted February 10 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: You’re so far down your little rabbit hole that you cannot even differentiate facts from opinions. You’d benefit from cancelling your internet service. It seems to have rotted your brain. If you're still clinging to the "Joke didn't know he had classified documents" belief (again, stop talking about legalities), I question whether you ever had a brain... Edited February 10 by Doc
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