cle23 Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, DRsGhost said: Joe Biden in no way shape or form got anywhere close to 81 million legal votes. Period. Talk about brainwashed. If it's that simple, then show the evidence. Because so far, it hasn't happened. Trump is what, 1/76 in lawsuits regarding the "stolen" election. 1 1
SectionC3 Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I don't want Trump but I could say the same about Biden, in fact most people who discuss politics stick to the "at least it's not Trump line" I’ve heard that a fair bit myself.
Doc Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I don't want Trump but I could say the same about Biden, in fact most people who discuss politics stick to the "at least it's not Trump line" And that's not being said much anymore.
SoCal Deek Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, BillStime said: What a mess 🎯 This is it? This your plan??? 😂😂😂
BillsFanNC Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 39 minutes ago, cle23 said: If it's that simple, then show the evidence. Because so far, it hasn't happened. Trump is what, 1/76 in lawsuits regarding the "stolen" election. There never was nor will there ever be sufficient evidence of voter fraud. That was the whole point of the massive effort to make mail in voting seem innocuous and normal. Puking mail in ballots and applications everywhere is all the evidence you need to know that major shenanigans occurred. Prior to 2020 it was universally accepted with bipartisan consensus that mail in voting invited great opportunity for voter fraud. See 2005 bi partisan commission co- chaired by President Carter. https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667 Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. 42% of the total ballots cast in 2020 were by mail or at mail in drop boxes. Previously the highest proportion in a Presidential election was around 20%. Given these previous warnings about mail in voting that were bipartisan, it's therefore incumbent on apologists such as yourself to square the previous bipartisan warnings of mail in voting making our elections less secure, with the overnight 180 in labeling the 2020 election as the most secure election in US history.
L Ron Burgundy Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: There never was nor will there ever be sufficient evidence of voter fraud. That was the whole point of the massive effort to make mail in voting seem innocuous and normal. Puking mail in ballots and applications everywhere is all the evidence you need to know that major shenanigans occurred. Prior to 2020 it was universally accepted with bipartisan consensus that mail in voting invited great opportunity for voter fraud. See 2005 bi partisan commission co- chaired by President Carter. https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667 Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. 42% of the total ballots cast in 2020 were by mail or at mail in drop boxes. Previously the highest proportion in a Presidential election was around 20%. Given these previous warnings about mail in voting that were bipartisan, it's therefore incumbent on apologists such as yourself to square the previous bipartisan warnings of mail in voting making our elections less secure, with the overnight 180 in labeling the 2020 election as the most secure election in US history. Yes, the deep state had it all planned out long ago. All the way from covid to the election. They control the fbi too! You cray cray.
SectionC3 Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, DRsGhost said: There never was nor will there ever be sufficient evidence of voter fraud. That was the whole point of the massive effort to make mail in voting seem innocuous and normal. Puking mail in ballots and applications everywhere is all the evidence you need to know that major shenanigans occurred. Prior to 2020 it was universally accepted with bipartisan consensus that mail in voting invited great opportunity for voter fraud. See 2005 bi partisan commission co- chaired by President Carter. https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667 Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. 42% of the total ballots cast in 2020 were by mail or at mail in drop boxes. Previously the highest proportion in a Presidential election was around 20%. Given these previous warnings about mail in voting that were bipartisan, it's therefore incumbent on apologists such as yourself to square the previous bipartisan warnings of mail in voting making our elections less secure, with the overnight 180 in labeling the 2020 election as the most secure election in US history. Hoax.
SoCal Deek Posted August 15, 2022 Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yes, the deep state had it all planned out long ago. All the way from covid to the election. They control the fbi too! You cray cray. You clearly don’t understand the term deep state….do you?
Doc Brown Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 5 hours ago, wnyguy said: Yes but you also have to consider that Trump never held a political office before. It's kind of crazy when you think about it. Not really when you run a populist campaign. It was his main attraction. He held the presidency for four years before losing if that counts. 3 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Yes, the deep state had it all planned out long ago. All the way from covid to the election. They control the fbi too! You cray cray. I agree it’s crazy but people include the FBI as part of the “deep state.”
cle23 Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, DRsGhost said: There never was nor will there ever be sufficient evidence of voter fraud. That was the whole point of the massive effort to make mail in voting seem innocuous and normal. Puking mail in ballots and applications everywhere is all the evidence you need to know that major shenanigans occurred. Prior to 2020 it was universally accepted with bipartisan consensus that mail in voting invited great opportunity for voter fraud. See 2005 bi partisan commission co- chaired by President Carter. https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667 Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III. 42% of the total ballots cast in 2020 were by mail or at mail in drop boxes. Previously the highest proportion in a Presidential election was around 20%. Given these previous warnings about mail in voting that were bipartisan, it's therefore incumbent on apologists such as yourself to square the previous bipartisan warnings of mail in voting making our elections less secure, with the overnight 180 in labeling the 2020 election as the most secure election in US history. Yet investigations by BOTH sides have returned no major instances of voter fraud.
BillStime Posted August 16, 2022 Author Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, cle23 said: Yet investigations by BOTH sides have returned no major instances of voter fraud. Grifting on the ignorant and desperate is a huge money maker for the cult. This will never end.
Andy1 Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 The whole voter fraud issue is about preventing the counting of votes from people in cities. People act surprised when election results change when large numbers of votes from cities are tallied. If there was any evidence of fraud, it would have been uncovered in 2020 with all the scrutiny and law suits but not a single court found any credible evidence. The concern is always about “fraud” in cities. Why not look at rural or suburbs? It’s never been a real issue and you would have to be a moron to commit a federal crime to help a sleazy politician, who may not even win.
BillsFanNC Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 2 hours ago, cle23 said: Yet investigations by BOTH sides have returned no major instances of voter fraud. Again, that's buying "the most secure election in US history" mantra. Which you're clearly eager to lap up. So again I'll ask you to please square the following.... Prior to 2020 both sides in unison told us that mail in voting unquestionably made elections less secure. In other words we needed less mail in voting than we had traditionally been having if we want to have confidence in our elections. Then 2020 comes along and we more than double the proportion of mail in ballots than had ever been cast in a Presidential election. And suddenly we're told that not only was the election secure, but that it was the most secure election in US history. I'm honestly interested in the pretzel you have to twist in order to convince yourself of the above making absolutely any sense whatsoever. An NFL analogy.. In order for the rest of the NFL to feel confident that the Patriots aren't cheating we have to make sure the Patriots staff can't point cameras at the opponent sideline. Then we find out that the Patriots had cameras pointed at the opponent sideline in half the games. No, no don't you worry the Patriots absolutely did not cheat. In fact we are more confident than we have ever been that no cheating took place. Even though we told you yesterday that the allowing them to point cameras at the opponents sideline justifiably makes the rest of the league highly suspicious that cheating took place.
Milanos Milano Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Tiberius said: The fact that there are active witnesses that need to be protected in this investigation is extremely telling. Trump is in major trouble. 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 55 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Again, that's buying "the most secure election in US history" mantra. Which you're clearly eager to lap up. So again I'll ask you to please square the following.... Prior to 2020 both sides in unison told us that mail in voting unquestionably made elections less secure. In other words we needed less mail in voting than we had traditionally been having if we want to have confidence in our elections. Then 2020 comes along and we more than double the proportion of mail in ballots than had ever been cast in a Presidential election. And suddenly we're told that not only was the election secure, but that it was the most secure election in US history. I'm honestly interested in the pretzel you have to twist in order to convince yourself of the above making absolutely any sense whatsoever. An NFL analogy.. In order for the rest of the NFL to feel confident that the Patriots aren't cheating we have to make sure the Patriots staff can't point cameras at the opponent sideline. Then we find out that the Patriots had cameras pointed at the opponent sideline in half the games. No, no don't you worry the Patriots absolutely did not cheat. In fact we are more confident than we have ever been that no cheating took place. Even though we told you yesterday that the allowing them to point cameras at the opponents sideline justifiably makes the rest of the league highly suspicious that cheating took place. Someone that isn't lazy (so not me ) can easily look up the studies done that show there's not much more of a risk for fraud with mail in voting vs in person. People generally aren't willing to risk their freedom for the slight chance they'll make an impact. Most of the fraud examples for those that get caught are whack jobs. Besides, burden of proof would be on you. And with all the scrutiny, someone would have been caught by now.
Andy1 Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 6 hours ago, DRsGhost said: Again, that's buying "the most secure election in US history" mantra. Which you're clearly eager to lap up. So again I'll ask you to please square the following.... Prior to 2020 both sides in unison told us that mail in voting unquestionably made elections less secure. In other words we needed less mail in voting than we had traditionally been having if we want to have confidence in our elections. Then 2020 comes along and we more than double the proportion of mail in ballots than had ever been cast in a Presidential election. And suddenly we're told that not only was the election secure, but that it was the most secure election in US history. I'm honestly interested in the pretzel you have to twist in order to convince yourself of the above making absolutely any sense whatsoever. An NFL analogy.. In order for the rest of the NFL to feel confident that the Patriots aren't cheating we have to make sure the Patriots staff can't point cameras at the opponent sideline. Then we find out that the Patriots had cameras pointed at the opponent sideline in half the games. No, no don't you worry the Patriots absolutely did not cheat. In fact we are more confident than we have ever been that no cheating took place. Even though we told you yesterday that the allowing them to point cameras at the opponents sideline justifiably makes the rest of the league highly suspicious that cheating took place. Why couldn’t the Trump ninja army find any evidence? Because it isn’t there.
BillsFanNC Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Why couldn’t the Trump ninja army find any evidence? Because it isn’t there. Plenty of evidence that you've ignored because you've been told to. Want to square mail in voting is not secure vs. We just had the largest number of mail in votes in US history and golly gee it was also the most secure election on US history... Or nah?
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: The fact that there are active witnesses that need to be protected in this investigation is extremely telling. Trump is in major trouble. It would be rather simple to redact names and protect the identity of any witness and still release the affidavit to provide clarity around the justification and rationale behind the warrant. Such a high profile case demands more transparency given all the rumors and theories being generated. I could start with the magistrate. He steps down from his judicial position in order to take the job of defense attorney for a couple defendants in the Epstein case. Once that is over he's reinstated to his position. The Trump vs. Clinton civil case is assigned to him. But back in June he suddenly recuses himself from the case for reasons I'm not aware of and resurfaces last week as the magistrate issuing the warrant for the search and seizure operation against Trump. So an obscure and rather insignificant magistrate in Florida is involved in three high profile cases. Perhaps just a coincidence? Perhaps not. What I find most interesting is how so few appear to be the least bit curious about all of these events that when combined weave an interesting picture where somebody could easily conclude Reinhart is some kind of political "cleaner" that's called into action when somebody makes a mess of things. Edited August 16, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills 1
B-Man Posted August 16, 2022 Posted August 16, 2022 One of these things, is not like the other...... Trump stole top secret nuclear documentation - the greatest security risk in US history AG Merrick Garland Took Weeks to 'Deliberate' Before Signing Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Application https://redstate.com/brutalbrittany/2022/08/16/no-urgency-ag-merrick-garland-took-weeks-to-deliberate-before-signing-mar-a-lago-search-warrant-application-n612885 .
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