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27 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Wow dude.  I get out just fine.  you?  I'm drawn to these arguments like rubber necking a car accident.  Strange but normal on a bell curve.  But yup, I'm bored.  Maybe I retired too early.  Maybe reading some banned books will fill the time....hmmm, Steinbeck!

I fully accept and understand the car accident part. But who banned Steinbeck for high school kids?

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35 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I fully accept and understand the car accident part. But who banned Steinbeck for high school kids?

Props on your civility.  pardon mine.  Teachers are generally great. Some of the best fisherman I know are teachers - makes sense. So it appears Buffalo, NY and St Louis, MO are on the list:  https://study.com/academy/lesson/why-was-the-grapes-of-wrath-banned-censorship-controversy.html.  Florida has been debunked but good catch.  Writing a banned book might be fun.  Not meaning to be flippant.

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I have never seen a group of people more utterly terrified of things they don't understand. 

 

For the record, the "15-minute-city" is an urban planning concept where everything needed for a healthy life is available within a 15-minute radius, with no need for a car. It's designed to create more sustainable, more lively and exciting cities akin to what we had before urban renewal. 

 

Naturally, the far right has decided this is some NWO globalist cabal thing that turns cities into prison camps. It has absolutely no bearing on reality beyond something for pathetic, uneducated losers to scream about. 

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21 hours ago, Roundybout said:

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I have never seen a group of people more utterly terrified of things they don't understand. 

 

For the record, the "15-minute-city" is an urban planning concept where everything needed for a healthy life is available within a 15-minute radius, with no need for a car. It's designed to create more sustainable, more lively and exciting cities akin to what we had before urban renewal. 

 

Naturally, the far right has decided this is some NWO globalist cabal thing that turns cities into prison camps. It has absolutely no bearing on reality beyond something for pathetic, uneducated losers to scream about. 

So you signing up for one of these cities you never leave without a travel pass?  Only mass transit?  

 

doubt any of them politicians and their donors in the mansions are looking to downsize and shack up with the normies and poors any time soon.

 

 

Noticing some progressive policies to create hoovervilles for homeless and vets.   full circle

 

https://www.homelessauthority.org/tiny-house-project/

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/26/us/homeless-tiny-home-villages-los-angeles/index.html

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

So you signing up for one of these cities you never leave without a travel pass?  Only mass transit?  

 

doubt any of them politicians and their donors in the mansions are looking to downsize and shack up with the normies and poors any time soon.

 

 

Noticing some progressive policies to create hoovervilles for homeless and vets.   full circle

 

https://www.homelessauthority.org/tiny-house-project/

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/26/us/homeless-tiny-home-villages-los-angeles/index.html

 

 

 

 

Stark raving nonsense. I admit I don't know much about certain topics, but I hold a masters degree in urban planning and work as a professional planner, so I know what I'm talking about here. The 15-minute city is a planning concept for increasing walkability and freedom to move without a car being required. Ever hear that Grandmaster Flash song "The Message?" Great line in it - "Cuz' it's all about money, ain't a damn thing funny - gotta have a car in this land of milk and honey ... "

 

"Never leave without a travel pass" my god dude, this is insanity. The point is you don't NEED a car to go to the grocery store. Like how it was in American cities for 100 years. No one is going to impound your Chevy Tahoe (though I do wish they would be banned in cities out of the interest of pedestrian safety). 

 

https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2021/02/08/defining-15-minute-city#:~:text=The “15-minute city”,travel distance of 15 minutes.

 

I'm sorry you find anything that isn't a McMansion something for the "poors." I agree that NIMBYism extends to the wealthy too, but given that housing prices have skyrocketed in urban areas, it's proof that the well-to-do desire living in dense and lively urban neighborhoods. I know I do. 

 

I cannot believe that right wingers have taken a concept meant to INCREASE freedom and decided it's anti-freedom. It's truely remarkable how terrified they all are of anything new. Utterly cowering, spineless snowflakes. 

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15 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Stark raving nonsense. I admit I don't know much about certain topics, but I hold a masters degree in urban planning and work as a professional planner, so I know what I'm talking about here. The 15-minute city is a planning concept for increasing walkability and freedom to move without a car being required. Ever hear that Grandmaster Flash song "The Message?" Great line in it - "Cuz' it's all about money, ain't a damn thing funny - gotta have a car in this land of milk and honey ... "

 

"Never leave without a travel pass" my god dude, this is insanity. The point is you don't NEED a car to go to the grocery store. Like how it was in American cities for 100 years. No one is going to impound your Chevy Tahoe (though I do wish they would be banned in cities out of the interest of pedestrian safety). 

 

https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2021/02/08/defining-15-minute-city#:~:text=The “15-minute city”,travel distance of 15 minutes.

 

I'm sorry you find anything that isn't a McMansion something for the "poors." I agree that NIMBYism extends to the wealthy too, but given that housing prices have skyrocketed in urban areas, it's proof that the well-to-do desire living in dense and lively urban neighborhoods. I know I do. 

 

I cannot believe that right wingers have taken a concept meant to INCREASE freedom and decided it's anti-freedom. It's truely remarkable how terrified they all are of anything new. Utterly cowering, spineless snowflakes. 

LOL, nice ramble.

 

the fact is most that can afford, move out of the inner cities for a number of reasons.

 

The people that talk about designed plans like that, think they wouldnt be part of it.

 

The people in the homes with land, are not giving it up to go live like a pleb.

 

Being isolated to some 15 minute prison is not freedom.

 

They only sky rocket in the genderfied areas.

 

aint no one investing or buying a home over buy the tops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

LOL, nice ramble.

 

the fact is most that can afford, move out of the inner cities for a number of reasons.

 

Historically, yes, but these trends are changing as people desire urban environments away from social isolation of suburban life. https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization

 

14 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

The people that talk about designed plans like that, think they wouldnt be part of it.

 

Try again, in English this time?

 

15 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

The people in the homes with land, are not giving it up to go live like a pleb.

 

"Live like a pleb" Can you elaborate? Why is city life, historically home to more affluent and powerful people, be like a "pleb?" 

15 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Being isolated to some 15 minute prison is not freedom.

 

Not surprised you've subscribed to the snowflake's manufactured fear porn, but there is nowhere in the article I linked stating that people are "isolated" in the cities. Maybe try reading it. 

 

17 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

They only sky rocket in the genderfied areas.

 

aint no one investing or buying a home over buy the tops.

 

This contradicts what you wrote. How could an area be gentrifying if people are leaving the cities? 

 

The East Side of Buffalo is ripe for development. It will come. 

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23 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

Historically, yes, but these trends are changing as people desire urban environments away from social isolation of suburban life. https://ourworldindata.org/urbanization

 

 

Try again, in English this time?

 

 

"Live like a pleb" Can you elaborate? Why is city life, historically home to more affluent and powerful people, be like a "pleb?" 

 

Not surprised you've subscribed to the snowflake's manufactured fear porn, but there is nowhere in the article I linked stating that people are "isolated" in the cities. Maybe try reading it. 

 

 

This contradicts what you wrote. How could an area be gentrifying if people are leaving the cities? 

 

The East Side of Buffalo is ripe for development. It will come. 

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-citylab-how-americans-moved/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/business/economy/new-home-building-suburbs.html

 

Where does the leadership of Buffalo live?  NYS?  

 

No mistake. cities would be much better if the DEMS would clean them up and at least try to slow down the gang/gun crime.  might help with property values. and investments in those areas.

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Lol this dude really wants to live in a pod and never drive anywhere. Couldn’t be me. 

No, he wants others to live in the pod.

 

they never see themselves in these plans.

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15 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Lol this dude really wants to live in a pod and never drive anywhere. Couldn’t be me. 


I would love to live in a brownstone walk up or townhome in a walkable neighborhood where I can ride my bike to get groceries instead of living in a soulless miserable cul de sac in some nameless suburb somewhere, yes. 
 

Driving sucks. The 15 minute city gives people the option to not have to drive. 

16 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-citylab-how-americans-moved/

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/business/economy/new-home-building-suburbs.html

 

Where does the leadership of Buffalo live?  NYS?  

 

No mistake. cities would be much better if the DEMS would clean them up and at least try to slow down the gang/gun crime.  might help with property values. and investments in those areas.

 

 

 

 


Name one thing Republicans do to address the root issues of crime (poverty and education). I’ll wait. 

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I would love to live in a brownstone walk up or townhome in a walkable neighborhood where I can ride my bike to get groceries instead of living in a soulless miserable cul de sac in some nameless suburb somewhere, yes. 
 

Driving sucks. 


Have you stopped to consider why the formerly walkable neighborhoods suck so hard now?

 

Calling suburbs “soulless” is such an incredible cope I’m not sure where to even start. 

 

And of course you’re spandex mafia. Paging @Chef Jim

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5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


I would love to live in a brownstone walk up or townhome in a walkable neighborhood where I can ride my bike to get groceries instead of living in a soulless miserable cul de sac in some nameless suburb somewhere, yes. 
 

Driving sucks. The 15 minute city gives people the option to not have to drive. 

So do it?  house in the burbs probably goes for more than an inner-city townhouse/apartment.  like an investment. then selling the car, even more savings.

 

https://www.areavibes.com/buffalo-ny/crime/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, LeviF said:


Have you stopped to consider why the formerly walkable neighborhoods suck so hard now?

 

Calling suburbs “soulless” is such an incredible cope I’m not sure where to even start. 

 

And of course you’re spandex mafia. Paging @Chef Jim

 

No, you tell me! 

 

Gee whiz, would I rather have this: 

 

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Or this

 

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I would rather swan dive into a wood chipper than live on some lifeless cul-de-sac, enslaved to my automobile to get me to the supermarket 25 minutes away. 

8 hours ago, Chris farley said:

So do it?  house in the burbs probably goes for more than an inner-city townhouse/apartment.  like an investment. then selling the car, even more savings.

 

https://www.areavibes.com/buffalo-ny/crime/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Investment in underdeveloped areas reduces crime. 

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9 hours ago, Chris farley said:

LOL, nice ramble.

 

the fact is most that can afford, move out of the inner cities for a number of reasons.

 

The people that talk about designed plans like that, think they wouldnt be part of it.

 

The people in the homes with land, are not giving it up to go live like a pleb.

 

Being isolated to some 15 minute prison is not freedom.

 

They only sky rocket in the genderfied areas.

 

aint no one investing or buying a home over buy the tops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the $2.4 million, 4 bed, 1 and 1/2 bath attached home on 0.04 acres in Brooklyn isn't likely to be bought by "plebs"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/realestate/downtown-brooklyn.html

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@Roundybout Then go move there dude. Nothing’s stopping you.
 

I lived downtown in a mid size metro for years, I understand what it is you’re looking for. But those places are vanishingly rare. 
 

Once I got married I couldn’t justify making my bride park on the street or take the bus at night considering the, erm, increasing vibrancy of the city and neighborhood. We rented a place on the city’s outer limits for a bit before we bought a house in the burbs. Country club is around the corner, shopping complex is five minutes by car or twenty minute walk. Two parks within a five minute walk from my front door, including the local little league field. I have 1650 square feet on 1/3 of an acre and paid $200k for the privilege. Put up a white picket fence last summer to complete the picture. And my kids can play in the yard or even in the street once they’re older like I used to growing up. Life is good brother. 

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Nice pics. now do the part that shows the parts with the crime stats I sourced.

 

suburbanite lefties always talking about how the other people should live. 

 

LMAO.

 

 

Crime like gang activity and rioting reduces investment into areas.

 

 

11 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

the $2.4 million, 4 bed, 1 and 1/2 bath attached home on 0.04 acres in Brooklyn isn't likely to be bought by "plebs"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/realestate/downtown-brooklyn.html

Now do the same search for 3 blocks over.

maybe some Bed Stey?

 

 

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