aristocrat Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, BillStime said: We’re you asleep during the four years of the PutinTrump administration? I'll start. Trump ended all sanctions on the Nordstream pipeline so Russia could open it up. Oh wait it was the other way around...Trump placed the sanctions and Biden just ended them with nothing in return. useful idiot 1 1 1
BillStime Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Pretend like I was We don't have to pretend... are you afraid to do your own research? Russia has been GROOMING Trump for the past 40 years - and Putin used him like a useful stooge. Conald guts the anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in the GQPs 2016 platform - who benefits? Conald constantly denies Russian hacking (as does the cult here despite the plethora of evidence) - who benefits? Conald did everything to destroy our relationships with our allies and with the EU - who benefits? Conald tried to destroy the credibility of NATO - who benefits? Conald pulled back our troops in Germany - who benefits? Conald applauded Putin's victory in Syria after handing it to him on a platter - who benefits? Conald tried to add Putin to the G7 - who benefits? Conald told Putin he could have Crimea - who benefits? Conald shared classified information with Russian operatives in 2017 - who benefits? Conald continued to buy and increase oil imports from Putin - who benefits? Conald incited a non-stop culture war on American soil - who benefits? Tumult at home, ailing alliances abroad: Why Trump’s America has been a ‘gift’ to Putin PUTIN’S PAYOUT: 12 WAYS TRUMP HAS SUPPORTED PUTIN’S FOREIGN POLICY AGENDA
aristocrat Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: We don't have to pretend... are you afraid to do your own research? Russia has been GROOMING Trump for the past 40 years - and Putin used him like a useful stooge. Conald guts the anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in the GQPs 2016 platform - who benefits? Conald constantly denies Russian hacking (as does the cult here despite the plethora of evidence) - who benefits? Conald did everything to destroy our relationships with our allies and with the EU - who benefits? Conald tried to destroy the credibility of NATO - who benefits? Conald pulled back our troops in Germany - who benefits? Conald applauded Putin's victory in Syria after handing it to him on a platter - who benefits? Conald tried to add Putin to the G7 - who benefits? Conald told Putin he could have Crimea - who benefits? Conald shared classified information with Russian operatives in 2017 - who benefits? Conald continued to buy and increase oil imports from Putin - who benefits? Conald incited a non-stop culture war on American soil - who benefits? Tumult at home, ailing alliances abroad: Why Trump’s America has been a ‘gift’ to Putin PUTIN’S PAYOUT: 12 WAYS TRUMP HAS SUPPORTED PUTIN’S FOREIGN POLICY AGENDA https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIM_NUS-NRS_1&f=M We imported more oil under both Obama and Biden. You are hilarious. 1
BillStime Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTIM_NUS-NRS_1&f=M We imported more oil under both Obama and Biden. You are hilarious. lmao - your graph shows exactly what I said. Russian oil imports increased from 142.0 million barrels in 2017, (Trumps first year in office) to 197.7 million barrels in 2020 — an increase of 39%. Any more questions on Putin benefited with his asset in the WH? lmao
aristocrat Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: lmao - your graph shows exactly what I said. Russian oil imports increased from 142.0 million barrels in 2017, (Trumps first year in office) to 197.7 million barrels in 2020 — an increase of 39%. Any more questions on Putin benefited with his asset in the WH? lmao How bout those imports during 2021? Who was in office?
BillStime Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, aristocrat said: How bout those imports during 2021? Who was in office? lol - I never said that no other POTUS bought oil from Russia - I simply said that Russian imports INCREASED during Trump administration - even tho the US achieved “energy independence” during his time - lmao 1
aristocrat Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: lol - I never said that no other POTUS bought oil from Russia - I simply said that Russian imports INCREASED during Trump administration - even tho the US achieved “energy independence” during his time - lmao So all but 2 years of Obama's presidency were higher than any point in Trumps, and Biden's has outpaced both of them. So between Obama and Biden they have bought more oil than Trump did. So which party has Russia profited more off of?
BillStime Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, aristocrat said: So all but 2 years of Obama's presidency were higher than any point in Trumps, and Biden's has outpaced both of them. So between Obama and Biden they have bought more oil than Trump did. So which party has Russia profited more off of? lmao - omfg Obama’s Russian imports DROPPED 22% during his TWO terms. And Biden signed an EO BANNING Russian imports 5 months ago! Give it up bro - lmao - Putin invested a lot in its useful idiot and tried hard to retain his services in 2020.
aristocrat Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: lmao - omfg Obama’s Russian imports DROPPED 22% during his TWO terms. And Biden signed an EO BANNING Russian imports 5 months ago! Give it up bro - lmao - Putin invested a lot in its useful idiot and tried hard to retain his services in 2020. So Obama increased oil imports after Bush 40 percent then yes during final years went down. But who had higher imports during their presidency trump, biden, or obama? And Biden only stopped the imports due to a war.
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: We don't have to pretend... are you afraid to do your own research? Russia has been GROOMING Trump for the past 40 years - and Putin used him like a useful stooge. Conald guts the anti-Russia stance on Ukraine in the GQPs 2016 platform - who benefits? The world because there was no war during his term. Tell us how much better off the US and world is now that conflict has prevailed? Conald constantly denies Russian hacking (as does the cult here despite the plethora of evidence) - who benefits? Nobody denied Russian hacking operations exist. All countries run hacking operations. Just that the source of wikileaks DNC and Clinton campaign data was not Russia. Wikileaks confirmed this. No forensic data from those servers confirmed it was hacking. Just "conclusions". Conald did everything to destroy our relationships with our allies and with the EU - who benefits? So keeping deals that disadvantage US companies and consumers is better than renegotiating better terms? Conald tried to destroy the credibility of NATO - who benefits? Huh? The ask was to pay 2% of GDP for common defense. Conald pulled back our troops in Germany - who benefits? These troops were re-deployed to Italy and Belgium. So its a shell game. Conald applauded Putin's victory in Syria after handing it to him on a platter - who benefits? ISIS's operational capability was destroyed by cooperation. That's a bad thing? Granted the establishments regime change goal was thwarted but looking at the track record all those have been disasters. And US troop remain in NE Syria along with Russian forces elsewhere. Turkey in the north acting as protectorate to remaining ISIS forces in conflict with the Kurds. Shiite militias operating out of Iraq. The Damascus government controlling most of the country. Israel launching airstrikes on specific targets. This whole thing is a mess. Conald tried to add Putin to the G7 - who benefits? Economic cooperation is a bad thing? Who benefits? Everybody. Conald told Putin he could have Crimea - who benefits? The annexation occurred under Obama. What did he do? Nothing. So blame Barrack. Did you know Crimea was part of Russia until 1957 when Soviet premier Khrushchev (an ethnic Ukrainian) transferred it to Ukraine? Conald shared classified information with Russian operatives in 2017 - who benefits? What operatives? What classified information? Conald continued to buy and increase oil imports from Putin - who benefits? US oil imports from Russia are insignificant. Something like 3%. In 2021 they were triple that of 2020. So should we tag Biden with this too? Conald incited a non-stop culture war on American soil - who benefits? The culture wars started by the neo-liberal left long before Trump. He was just the first to fight back. Which is something they've never had to deal with so obviously they are scared to death of Trump. Tumult at home, ailing alliances abroad: Why Trump’s America has been a ‘gift’ to Putin PUTIN’S PAYOUT: 12 WAYS TRUMP HAS SUPPORTED PUTIN’S FOREIGN POLICY AGENDA You're back with this same list? See my comments. Edited August 3, 2022 by All_Pro_Bills
Boatdrinks Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 17 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: This is true but I do wish the left would ease up on some stuff. We have to be able to attract some conservatives to vote blue. We lose potential voters pushing for change a lot aren't ready for. The government is distracted by pronouns , but that’s not why it can’t function. It’s being run by woke dummies, that’s why. When you choose on the basis of skin color, gayness etc this is what you get. Look at the press secretary. Her most important qualification is being lgbtq. She’s worse than Psaki, which most people didn’t think was possible. Kamaltoe? She’s a black woman. Grossly incompetent, except perhaps at giggling. Anyone with a shred of conservatism will never vote “ blue”. Their policies are awful, and their main goal is to destroy the middle class by making us “ equal”. Pronouns, CRT “ bias” training et al are real things that have crept into most of our worlds. No thanks. I can’t subscribe to the idiotic reasoning and ideas they push : men are women , can be pregnant etc. 1
cle23 Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 19 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Also, things leftists did that Americans oppose: 1. Hide from the flu 2. Shut down the economy then blamed Trump 3. Shut down life for 2 years - inflicted immeasurable damage to our kids that they may never recover 4. Spent 9 trillion dollars and told us it was necessary because of the flu 5. Said 9 trillion has led to inflation that is decimating the lives of everyone that doesn't make over 400K 6. Still mandating masks in all deep blue public place dumpster fires 7. Used all of that to rig the 2020 election 1. Provide any evidence for #7, please. Trump is now what, 1/76 in court cases? Also, the rest were all started under Trump. All of them. Trump approved $3.1T of the stimulus, with Biden adding $1.9T more. Not sure where the $9T is coming from. I also keep hearing how the shutdowns ruined kids lives, possibly forever? I have 2 kids, and did it effect them? Sure. Are they still perfectly happy, functioning, normal kids? Absolutely. What hurt my kids more is losing 2 grandparents to COVID in a 13 month time frame. That will hurt them more. 1 1 1
Big Blitz Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, cle23 said: 1. Provide any evidence for #7, please. Trump is now what, 1/76 in court cases? Also, the rest were all started under Trump. All of them. Trump approved $3.1T of the stimulus, with Biden adding $1.9T more. Not sure where the $9T is coming from. I also keep hearing how the shutdowns ruined kids lives, possibly forever? I have 2 kids, and did it effect them? Sure. Are they still perfectly happy, functioning, normal kids? Absolutely. What hurt my kids more is losing 2 grandparents to COVID in a 13 month time frame. That will hurt them more. And what would have saved their grandparents? Answer: Nothing worth doing that pretty much ends the Republic The good news is the kids were always safe in schools that Democrats shut down - and have now turned elementary education into "here's your chromebook."
nedboy7 Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 Alex Jones just had to concede Sandy Hook was real. A sad day for QOP.
Big Blitz Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 Oh - and as for Trump "starting all the rest.." Yea sure.....you have the entire planet shutting down - minus Florida - the entire Deep State and media 24/7/365 Trump wants to kill your grandparents - yea he absolutely had a choice. And I blamed him for it the minute 15 days became indefinitely with ZERO metrics. It's why he's disqualified from running again. He should have told them all "come up with a better plan you ****ing lunatics." But of course.....he knows what this most likely was. Not sure what China Unleashes next when we don't play along next time.
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 And don't forget.....Trump and Putin both have a "u" in their last name. So there's that! 1 1
cle23 Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: And what would have saved their grandparents? Answer: Nothing worth doing that pretty much ends the Republic The good news is the kids were always safe in schools that Democrats shut down - and have now turned elementary education into "here's your chromebook." Elementary school were going the computer route long before COVID. As far as grandparents, my dad passed relatively early, before there were vaccines or anything else. He had some health problems, but nothing that wasn't manageable. My mother passed in February, after a person came to a kid's birthday party KNOWING they were positive, but they were a "it's not real" quack. She caught it, and went from relatively good health for a 64 year old woman, to dead in 3 weeks. It was entirely preventable if people weren't idiots. Edited August 3, 2022 by cle23 2
cle23 Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Oh - and as for Trump "starting all the rest.." Yea sure.....you have the entire planet shutting down - minus Florida - the entire Deep State and media 24/7/365 Trump wants to kill your grandparents - yea he absolutely had a choice. And I blamed him for it the minute 15 days became indefinitely with ZERO metrics. It's why he's disqualified from running again. He should have told them all "come up with a better plan you ****ing lunatics." But of course.....he knows what this most likely was. Not sure what China Unleashes next when we don't play along next time. So I see the rest of your response is a bunch of unproven, conspiracy theorist bull. Somehow Trump is the smartest man alive according to you. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 3 hours ago, cle23 said: Elementary school were going the computer route long before COVID. This is a untrue statement for the vast majority of the country. Orange County FL gave high schoolers computers 8 years ago and middle schoolers them 5 years ago but only gave them to elementary kids because of Covid. No intelligent person believes more than 5% of elementary student would benefit from a computer based curriculum more than a personal one. If you believe tyour area was going that direction please let me know where you live
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