What a Tuel Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: low is one thing, but Watson is making almost nothing in base salary, that’s not common. (For example, when Josh signed his extension they lowered his 2022 cap hit to 16mil but he’s still making 4mil base salary) Another thing I just put together is the fact that Cleveland has the most cap space in the league by about 20mil. Wouldn’t it benefit them to front-load a big contract at this point? Its indefensible from every angle I can think of. It is indefensible, they signed him at all costs including ensuring effect of suspension is minimal. There is language in the contract that protects his signing bonus, so the fact that the browns did or didnt write the contract to benefit Watson and his situation is not really debatable. It just isn't really about the first year base salary being low. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/18/source-deshaun-watson-deal-carves-out-potential-impact-of-suspension-for-pending-allegations/ Quote When seeing that the Browns would give quarterback Deshaun Watson a five-year, $230 million fully-guaranteed contract, my first thought was that the guarantees mean nothing if/when Watson is suspended over the allegations made against him last year. All teams use language voiding guarantees if a player is suspended. Also, all teams include standard signing-bonus default language in the event the player misses games for which he has received advance compensation in the form of a signing bonus. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Watson deal carves out the current situation, insulating Watson from having the remaining guarantees void or from owing any bonus money back to the Browns.
YoloinOhio Posted August 11, 2022 Author Posted August 11, 2022 So a starting QB who got dumped by their team because he was good but not good enough and coming off an injured shoulder - where have I seen that before
Warcodered Posted August 11, 2022 Posted August 11, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: oh, he'd accept a slight increase, how magnanimous of him. 🙄 1
Big Turk Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/10/2022 at 2:23 PM, Doc Brown said: A low base salary in the first year of a contract is pretty common. It's the unawareness of what the optics makes it look like is why the Browns are the Browns. Oh they are very aware of it which is why they did it. To ensure if Watson is suspended he loses as little money as possible.
Doc Brown Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Oh they are very aware of it which is why they did it. To ensure if Watson is suspended he loses as little money as possible. Myles Garrett got a 1.035 million dollar base salary his first year his extension kicked in on his 125 million dollar deal. The exact same Watson got. Stafford's base salary this year is 1.5 million on his 4 year 160 million dollar deal. Prescott got 2.5 million on the first year of his contract on basically the same deal. Murray will have only a 2 million dollar base salary the first year his extension kicks in. You get my point. GM's do this he reason they do this to build salary cap space to allow them flexibility in the future. Regardless, I hope the Browns aren't dumb enough to realize how that would look optically but I wouldn't put it past them. Maybe they thought they could use the argument I just presented to justify them safeguarding him financially against a suspension hoping the public would buy it. Either way they're idiots.
Chandler#81 Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) I recommend the Clockwork Orange method. He’s a serial perv. Edited August 12, 2022 by Chandler#81
Big Turk Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 15 hours ago, Warcodered said: oh, he'd accept a slight increase, how magnanimous of him. 🙄 He knows he is about to get slammed 1
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Dude is lucky he didnt face criminal charges but he will "accept" and 8 game suspension and 5 mil fine. Lol, you'll accept what you get perv. 2 1
ytownblofan Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 15 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Bet you he's wishing he would have taken the settlement talks more seriously.
Mr. WEO Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 who cares what he's willing to accept. the NFL isn't asking.. 2
Bruffalo Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: who cares what he's willing to accept. the NFL isn't asking.. Watson isn't big on asking either. 1
Doc Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Big Turk said: Oh they are very aware of it which is why they did it. To ensure if Watson is suspended he loses as little money as possible. I'm actually glad the Browns give him more money. That's more money out of their dumb pockets and less to spend on players. The NFL will levy a good fine to lighten Watson's wallet.
hemma Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 An Ankle Monitor for a year might be a nice, added touch.
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 So is this scumbag actually going to get to play tonight?
Rocky Landing Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: So is this scumbag actually going to get to play tonight? I kinda hope he does. Not sure how much of a crowd is going to show up to a Jaguars preseason home game, but I would guess that even at half capacity, the amount of booing Watson will receive will be notable. 1
TheBrownBear Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 18 hours ago, Warcodered said: oh, he'd accept a slight increase, how magnanimous of him. 🙄 It really is, considering he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong!
Saxum Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: I kinda hope he does. Not sure how much of a crowd is going to show up to a Jaguars preseason home game, but I would guess that even at half capacity, the amount of booing Watson will receive will be notable. Maybe the Jaguars will use this is a way to sell tickets. For every set of a tickets a banner with handholds comes included while available. Choices of banners: Hands off pervert! The word no means "NO!" Next PT will Castrate in self defense 6'2" Dingus
ColoradoBills Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: I kinda hope he does. Not sure how much of a crowd is going to show up to a Jaguars preseason home game, but I would guess that even at half capacity, the amount of booing Watson will receive will be notable. I'm dumbfounded as to why Watson and the Browns would want to play him. If he is suspended for the year, it's meaningless to give him snaps. The risk they take is what happens after he steps onto the field. IF the "twitter-verse" explodes and the story gets legs, it could spill out of the sports media world into the mainstream media. Having this "discussed" on morning news shows and women's afternoon talk shows will not make the NFL and them look good at all. Add the AMTA Convention coming to Cleveland in a week or two. If they play him and it does turn stupid, then I hope they reap all the bad press and not the NFL in general. The idiots should just lay low, but it seems Watson and the Browns are going to go down swinging the "He didn't do anything wrong" position. 1
Scott7975 Posted August 12, 2022 Posted August 12, 2022 I don’t normally wish injury on players but I would find it funny if he played, got injured in the game, and missed games to injury didn’t count against the suspension coming. 1
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