Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, NoSaint said: settling is not directly an admission of guilt No but in the court of public opinion it is. The personal conduct policy does not require any legal action. He committed these acts. There is no doubt that he did. First the grand jury let all these women down, and now he gets away with what almost $200M guaranteed??? Like others gave said I'm outraged and disgusted. I'm thankful he is not on the Bills. However, this situation will not changing my viewing habits of the Bills and the NFL, so I'm just as complicit in this as most fans.
K D Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) The stipulation should have been all future massages have to be at the facility by a certified MALE masseuse. If he is caught going elsewhere then he is kicked out of the league indefinitely Edited August 1, 2022 by KDIGGZ 2
Ross Murdock Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 I will also note, that while most of the commenters here are rightfully harshly judging the Browns, and Watson. However the last I looked OJ Simpsons name is still disgustingly on the Stadiums "Ring of Honor". And their is 100% no doubt he brutally butchered two people to death!! While were worrying about some coerced hand jobs? Watson's garbage, and will be rightfully suspended. But let's get off our high horses here in western NY. 2 1 2
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, FireChans said: First it was the Alex Jones guy, now we got Bonnie Nettles over here talking about our collective sickness? Are you wearing black Nikes? How is it not? Giving the NFL money while being upset? What would you call it?
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Admission of liability.... guilt is a criminal law concept. But yes, you are right. and liability is a broad word here right? You can settle a lawsuit if you have done nothing wrong but want to avoid the circus of an accusation. I’m not saying it’s the case here but many get these concepts mixed up and it’s a real important baseline to these discussions
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, NoSaint said: and liability is a broad word here right? You can settle a lawsuit if you have done nothing wrong but want to avoid the circus of an accusation. I’m not saying it’s the case here but many get these concepts mixed up and it’s a real important baseline to these discussions Yea most civil suits are settled absent an admission of liability.
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: No he can try, which will be disputed and result in Watson playing week one, and will lose. Which is why he is not. He does NOT get final say on indefinite suspensions lmao. We have seen this play out before. not to mention Watson taking the nfl to federal court and asking for review of evidence against craft, for instance. 1
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: not to mention Watson taking the nfl to federal court and asking for review of evidence against craft, for instance. You just know it would happen. That’s the last thing they want. More public eyes on this. Not that it would probably matter. People used to watch other people kill other people for entertainment. Edited August 1, 2022 by IronMaidenBills
H2o Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 6 games.....Really? 6 games. Calvin Ridley gets a year for "gambling", but Watson gets 6 for being a serial predator? Bruh. 1 1
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, NoSaint said: settling is not directly an admission of guilt No but in the court of public opinion it is. The personal conduct policy does not require any legal action. He committed these acts. There is no doubt that he did. First the grand jury let all these women down, and now he gets away with what almost $200M guaranteed??? Like others gave said I'm outraged and disgusted. I'm thankful he is not on the Bills. However, this situation will not changing my viewing habits of the Bills and the NFL, so I'm just as complicit in this as most fans. 1
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, H2o said: 6 games.....Really? 6 games. Calvin Ridley gets a year for "gambling", but Watson gets 6 for being a serial predator? Bruh. Calvin Ridley's actions had a much larger impact on the integrity of the game. Infinitely worse, honestly.
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Calvin Ridley's actions had a much larger impact on the integrity of the game. Infinitely worse, honestly. From a brand tarnishment point of view, absolutely. Would a lot of people stop watching the NFL if they truly found out it was rigged? I know I would. There are times I feel like it is, but have no proof of it. If it was ever proved to be rigged, I’d stop watching tomorrow. Edited August 1, 2022 by IronMaidenBills
Southern Bills Fan Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Calvin Ridley's actions had a much larger impact on the integrity of the game. Infinitely worse, honestly. Unless it was your daughter 1
FireChans Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter That's irrelevant in more than a couple ways.
Don Otreply Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes, a stern talking to, wouldn’t want to actually punish the guy for his long term abhorrent behavior…,
GunnerBill Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 Just now, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter That doesn't change their impact on the integrity of the game. The action isn't worse. Its risk to the NFL is worse. 1 1
NoSaint Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter again, on the field and off the field impacts being far different issues to deal with. And the CBA addresses them as such. 1
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Unless it was your daughter No, it still wouldn’t change the matter. It would still be utterly disgusting and appalling, but individual actions don’t have nearly the ruinous affect that collective rigging would. It would kill the league.
benderbender Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 Yet another example of the NFL looking the other way for talented players. Isn't that the ultimate slap in the face of Kaepernick's legacy? We'll put up with numerous domestic abusers, and a high-profile serial sexual assaulter because he's actually good. But you're the only one that ever got "blackballed." 1
Milanos Milano Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, benderbender said: Yet another example of the NFL looking the other way for talented players. Isn't that the ultimate slap in the face of Kaepernick's legacy? We'll put up with numerous domestic abusers, and a high-profile serial sexual assaulter because he's actually good. But you're the only one that ever got "blackballed." They are a business. They are going to keep doing it until their bottom line is affected.
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