Success Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 Outside of New England, I doubt any fanbase knows and understands the Sith Lord more than Bills fans. He doesn't say stuff like that. Just wanted to get a temperature out there: there has been a ton of Jones hype this offseason, and at minimum, he IS in much better shape physically. Any concern at all that we could be in for another run from that team? Obviously, we're still top dog for the time being, but if Jones does pan out, I could see them being more like Miami was in the '90's to the team we had then. My own 2 cents is that I still don't see it. He can't really improvise, and arm strength will always be an issue. He also struggles against man coverage. But he does have the cerebral thing. 4 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 "Dramatically?" "Well, I like to think that the way he complains to officials for calls is already Brady like. He could be a soccer star." 2 2 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 I understand that Jones has been really impressing Quote
Greg S Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 The measure of greatness in a QB is how he handles those pressure packed moments from March to July. 8 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 I don’t really see it…I think he’ll be consistently good but he came into the league pretty close to his ceiling and faded pretty hard against better competition down the stretch. A qbs development isn’t always linear with improvements each year…a lot of guys have their best year their rookie year before defenses adjust to their tendencies then flame out 1 1 Quote
clayboy54 Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 Didn't he say the same thing about Brian Hoyer at one point? Quote
stevewin Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 But is he thick? The perpetual Mac Jones hype is a joke - his ceiling is game manager - give me a break. 1 3 Quote
BillsfaninSB Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 I don’t believe anything that is printed this time of year, including Bills related stuff. Just training camp speak. 4 Quote
Success Posted July 26, 2022 Author Posted July 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I don’t really see it…I think he’ll be consistently good but he came into the league pretty close to his ceiling and faded pretty hard against better competition down the stretch. A qbs development isn’t always linear with improvements each year…a lot of guys have their best year their rookie year before defenses adjust to their tendencies then flame out That's how I feel about it. He's clearly pretty solid. In a way, that could be a good scenario for the division. The Pats have a Cousins/Alex Jones type of guy - good, but not close to great. They have to overpay him in a couple of years, and he's their long-term guy, but he can only take them so far. 2 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, Success said: Outside of New England, I doubt any fanbase knows and understands the Sith Lord more than Bills fans. He doesn't say stuff like that. Just wanted to get a temperature out there: there has been a ton of Jones hype this offseason, and at minimum, he IS in much better shape physically. Any concern at all that we could be in for another run from that team? Obviously, we're still top dog for the time being, but if Jones does pan out, I could see them being more like Miami was in the '90's to the team we had then. My own 2 cents is that I still don't see it. He can't really improvise, and arm strength will always be an issue. He also struggles against man coverage. But he does have the cerebral thing. So if McD praises Edmunds it means he is getting an extension. If BB praises his QB it means nothing or something else. It's all coach speak and we read way too much into it. Myself included. 1 Quote
Logic Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Success said: That's how I feel about it. He's clearly pretty solid. In a way, that could be a good scenario for the division. The Pats have a Cousins/Alex Jones type of guy - good, but not close to great. They have to overpay him in a couple of years, and he's their long-term guy, but he can only take them so far. Oh dear. 8 1 1 Quote
FilthyBeast Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, Success said: Outside of New England, I doubt any fanbase knows and understands the Sith Lord more than Bills fans. He doesn't say stuff like that. Just wanted to get a temperature out there: there has been a ton of Jones hype this offseason, and at minimum, he IS in much better shape physically. Any concern at all that we could be in for another run from that team? Obviously, we're still top dog for the time being, but if Jones does pan out, I could see them being more like Miami was in the '90's to the team we had then. My own 2 cents is that I still don't see it. He can't really improvise, and arm strength will always be an issue. He also struggles against man coverage. But he does have the cerebral thing. As long as Belichik is around there should be legitimate concern regarding the Patriots. I don't think Mac Jones is quite Tom Brady and they are going to go on another 20 year run, but the information regarding his off season improvement has been consistent and do expect to see improvement on the field and I don't think this team is going to underestimate the Pats (and rest of division) like some of the fans are. 2 1 1 Quote
DasNootz Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Logic said: Oh dear. Stop... it's obvious the poster meant Tom Jones. Edited July 26, 2022 by DasNootz 1 5 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 BB also said Mac isn't 'there' yet. "He’s worked hard to get better, and we’ve identified areas of improvement, as well. We’re not there yet, but we’ll keep working at it.” www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/belichick-on-patriots-qb-mac-jones-dramatic-improvement/ar-AAZZz4r Quote
Brand J Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 If Mac Jones had Buffalo’s weapons I think he’d be a legitimate concern. His arm strength is much talked about, but it’s decent enough, better than a Chad Pennington. He can get the ball to where it needs to be. Stop comparing his arm talent to Josh Allen, it’s not fair to him. And he doesn’t need Allen’s arm strength, he just needs to know where to go with the football, but needs playmakers to be able to do something with it. He lacks those weapons. 1 Quote
eball Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 This is all well and good, but I just don't think we're going to hear Sean McDermott telling local media "Mac Jones is a problem." Quote
716er Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 Can one please define whatever the hell "the cerebral thing" means? Quote
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