aristocrat Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 11 hours ago, BillStime said: That guy has ZERO business being there - none. Those Americans have every right to their health care. It is also against the law. So as I understand he is allowed to be there but he cannot interfere with her getting treated. Did he? By offering counselling and not touching her? Did the 72 year old attacking him cause her to be interfered with here? Now we have all these protesters that block intersections right? Was big with the BLM protesters and someone would eventually get run over. Do we make it illegal to block the roads? Can't have it both ways remember
BillStime Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: So as I understand he is allowed to be there but he cannot interfere with her getting treated. Did he? By offering counselling and not touching her? Did the 72 year old attacking him cause her to be interfered with here? Now we have all these protesters that block intersections right? Was big with the BLM protesters and someone would eventually get run over. Do we make it illegal to block the roads? Can't have it both ways remember Two wrongs don't make a right... The 1994 Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act prohibits intentional property damage and the use of “force or threat of force or … physical obstruction” to “injure, intimidate or interfere with” someone entering an abortion clinic.
aristocrat Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: Two wrongs don't make a right... The 1994 Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act prohibits intentional property damage and the use of “force or threat of force or … physical obstruction” to “injure, intimidate or interfere with” someone entering an abortion clinic. So they are there all time right? He likely knows the laws. He can be there just cannot interfere. Now we have only heard about the 72 year old man who went after the kid. This man was unable to criminally charge the pastor and also lost the civil suit. We have no info if the female was actually interfered with.
BillStime Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: So they are there all time right? He likely knows the laws. He can be there just cannot interfere. Now we have only heard about the 72 year old man who went after the kid. This man was unable to criminally charge the pastor and also lost the civil suit. We have no info if the female was actually interfered with. "Now we have only heard about the 72 year old man who went after the kid"... too much he said-she said. Where is the video evidence? Bottom line: this guy has ZERO reason to be there; esp with his 12 year old son... This incident likely did more damage to his son than the parents who allegedly bring their kids to a drag show.
BillsFanNC Posted September 27, 2022 Author Posted September 27, 2022 You don't say? It's just so hard to imagine that the FBI and DOJ would ever be involved in such police state activities....
aristocrat Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: "Now we have only heard about the 72 year old man who went after the kid"... too much he said-she said. Where is the video evidence? Bottom line: this guy has ZERO reason to be there; esp with his 12 year old son... This incident likely did more damage to his son than the parents who allegedly bring their kids to a drag show. the 72 year old lost the civil suit. Civil suits are easier to win than criminal cases. If he couldn’t win that he was at fault. The kid was probably traumatized by being attacked by an old man. If he hasn’t been attacked no trauma right?
BillStime Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: the 72 year old lost the civil suit. Civil suits are easier to win than criminal cases. If he couldn’t win that he was at fault. The kid was probably traumatized by being attacked by an old man. If he hasn’t been attacked no trauma right? The old man never showed up to his civil suit... prob not worth the stress. But yea, let's not focus on THIS guy: “Mr. Houck, who often carries a large knife on his belt, poses a threat to the safety of those seeking entrance to our facilities,” she said. “Violence and obstruction of clinic entrances is unacceptable and illegal. It’s good to see justice served.” This guy has a history of terrorizing innocent people - he is no saint. Have you done ANY research on him? Any? A US magistrate and a grand jury reviewed sworn testimony and issued a warrant for his arrest. He will have a jury trial. What is your objection?
SoCal Deek Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 12 hours ago, BillStime said: That guy has ZERO business being there - none. Those Americans have every right to their health care. It is also against the law. And so is protesting in front of a Justice's personal residence. Come on Billsy....if you want to start this sort of thing, you have to be ready for some blowback. 1
BillStime Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, SoCal Deek said: And so is protesting in front of a Justice's personal residence. Come on Billsy....if you want to start this sort of thing, you have to be ready for some blowback. I already said TWO wrongs don't make a right...
SoCal Deek Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, BillStime said: I already said TWO wrongs don't make a right... Thank You! Now let's see you start one of your many Threads chastising those protestors.
aristocrat Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: The old man never showed up to his civil suit... prob not worth the stress. But yea, let's not focus on THIS guy: “Mr. Houck, who often carries a large knife on his belt, poses a threat to the safety of those seeking entrance to our facilities,” she said. “Violence and obstruction of clinic entrances is unacceptable and illegal. It’s good to see justice served.” This guy has a history of terrorizing innocent people - he is no saint. Have you done ANY research on him? Any? A US magistrate and a grand jury reviewed sworn testimony and issued a warrant for his arrest. He will have a jury trial. What is your objection? As long as he's there peacefully and not interfering and acting legally I have no issue with him being there. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: As long as he's there peacefully and not interfering and acting legally I have no issue with him being there. Personally, I think protesting and debating with women on the way into a clinic for services--including abortion--is wrong. One has no way of knowing the specifics that brought her there, the pressure she is under, the emotions she is dealing with. I think this debate needs to happen on a higher level. I also think towing your adolescent children along is wrong, too, perhaps at times on the order of encouraging gender confusion for one's young children. 1 1
B-Man Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 How corrupt is the FBI? https://www.thenewneo.com/2022/09/26/how-corrupt-is-the-fbi/ .
B-Man Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 The truth continues to come out. 30 ex-FBI agents stand up to support whistleblower who exposed agency’s political bias by Miranda Devine Thirty former FBI agents, including a retired deputy assistant director, head of counterterrorism and five SWAT team members, have spoken out publicly in support of suspended FBI whistleblower Stephen Friend. Their heartfelt messages, obtained exclusively by The Post, show a deep and widespread anguish about the politicization of the FBI. “It’s time to stop the FBI from being the enforcer of a political party’s ideology,” says Ernie Tibaldi, a retired agent from San Francisco. “We need to reestablish the FBI as the apolitical and independent law enforcement entity that it always was.” https://nypost.com/2022/09/28/30-ex-fbi-agents-stand-up-to-support-whistleblower-who-exposed-agencys-political-bias/
BillsFanNC Posted September 29, 2022 Author Posted September 29, 2022 All whistle-blowers must be heard and believed!! (only when out to get the orange man though) 1
B-Man Posted September 29, 2022 Posted September 29, 2022 You read about the story last week of how between 20-30 armed FBI agents showed up early on the morning of September 23 at Catholic activist Mark Houck’s home, pounding relentlessly against the door until he opened it, flashing semi-automatic weapons at his wife and seven children, then taking him away—handcuffed with a belly-chain—while his terrorized, screaming family cried in the background. His crime? He allegedly shoved a man who was verbally abusing his 12-year-old son and getting up into his face. What in the world is going on here? We all know that you can throw someone in front of a moving subway car in NYC and be back out on the streets by lunchtime, so why bring down the full power of the federal government on this guy? Just the other day, a drunken man drove over and killed an 18-year-old because he thought he might be a MAGA Republican. Was this man surrounded by heavily-armed Merrick Garland troops and hauled away, shackled and humiliated? No, he was let out after just a few days. The 47-year-old Houck is the Co-Founder & President of The King’s Men, a pro-Catholic, pro-masculinity advocacy group. He pleaded not guilty Tuesday to federal charges of violating the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act. The lunacy on display here is mind-boggling: A) local officials and the Philadelphia district attorney declined to press charges last October when the encounter took place. Why? Because there wasn’t enough evidence of a crime. B) When Houck found out the Department of Justice was investigating, he offered to turn himself in. The DOJ however, declined that option and decided a full military assault was the better way to go. C) The charges are obviously bogus and trumped up. It is an unbelievable stretch to imagine that Mark Houck was deliberately preventing someone from obtaining an abortion when he was simply protecting his son from an unhinged protester. He now faces up to 11 years in prison, if you can believe it. It is once again, sadly, another example of the wholesale politicization and militarization of our Department of Justice. To me, what’s so terrifying about this incident is that Houck has no ties to Q-Anon, has no criminal record, had nothing to do with Jan. 6, and is not a known Trump associate—he’s just a guy. Meaning that Attorney Merrick Garland is now using the awesome powers of the federal government to go after regular American citizens for the crime of not agreeing with Joe Biden. If you’re not worried by now, you’re not paying attention. https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2022/09/29/new-details-of-outrageous-fbi-raid-on-catholic-activist-mark-houck-shock-the-conscience-n634905 1
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