CorkScrewHill Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 I know Mac Jones Oops .. he actually went with one Joshua Allen without hesitation though he stated he hated to state it. Talked about his growth and his very evident leadership. This would be great coming from a teammate .. but teammates say those things as do opponents who are trying to avoid bulletin board material. It is far more compelling IMHO coming from somebody who played for a hated rival and is now on the outside. 12 1 15 14 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 Just now, John from Riverside said: That’s respect right there wtf are you doing up at 4:30 am? Early start or late night 4 Quote
fergie's ire Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 What I think is interesting is his take on Allen's progress. It's clear that, unlike many in the media, he has actually seen him play over the years. He doesn't say "didn't know how to throw the ball accurately but then miraculously learned." Instead says "saw flashes" but also saw the mistakes and when he cleaned up the mistakes and the flashes became consistent play he was a different quarterback. 5 Quote
LeGOATski Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 It's a no-brainer. Pound-for-pound scariest QB in the NFL. 1 Quote
Virgil Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 Fine, I’ll forgive you. But you’re on thin ice Jason! 4 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's a no-brainer. Pound-for-pound scariest QB in the NFL. Youre right, but there are still people out there who give the nod to Mahomes over Allen and what really purses me off is lazy reporting about the Chiefs loss last year in the playoffs. As if it was Josh’s fault. The cool thing is this is going to be a Brady/Manning rivalry and the national media will take sides. Before that like is middle aged guys was a Kelly/Marino rivalry. I always thought Elway was that third rail. In that way I see possibly Herbert to be our third rail. Man it’s going to be a fun decade or longer if everyone stays healthy. 7 Quote
Doc Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Youre right, but there are still people out there who give the nod to Mahomes over Allen and what really purses me off is lazy reporting about the Chiefs loss last year in the playoffs. As if it was Josh’s fault. The cool thing is this is going to be a Brady/Manning rivalry and the national media will take sides. Before that like is middle aged guys was a Kelly/Marino rivalry. I always thought Elway was that third rail. In that way I see possibly Herbert to be our third rail. Man it’s going to be a fun decade or longer if everyone stays healthy. With great QBs, the coaching is the difference. Quote
hondo in seattle Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 Cool to hear his analysis. But it only reaffirms what we Bills fans already know. 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 I don’t think Josh Allen will even reach his peak until he’s like 32. I think the game will be ultra slow to him by then. OMG just think about that. 2 3 Quote
Doc Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don’t think Josh Allen will even reach his peak until he’s like 32. I think the game will be ultra slow to him by then. OMG just think about that. I think it will be within the next 3 years. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: I think it will be within the next 3 years. Definitely trending that way. I just feel all Sugar High Josh will be gone by his 30’s. He will be just Mr. Cool, Calm and Collected. Probably break the single season total TD record. 1 Quote
Inigo Montoya Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 (edited) Josh just checks off all the boxes. 1. He can throw the ball accurately with velocity or touch anywhere on the field. Put Mahomes and Rodgers in that group too. 2. Can run the ball in the open field like a Tight End and run short yardage like a full back. Obviously Lamar and Murray can run in the open field but they're not short yardage guys. 3. Has maturity beyond his years to shoulder the responsibility of being the face of a franchise. Contrast that with Mayfield and Murray. Who is another young QB who does it as well or better than Josh.....? I'm not sure there is one. 4. Is a leader of men and can get the locker room to follow him and makes those around him better. Put Brady in this list. 5. Is absolutely clutch in the big moments. Definitely Brady in here too. It would be fair to put Mahomes in this group despite his showing versus the Bengals last season. You can say Rodgers but he sometimes disappears in the playoffs. 6. Is big as a mountain and an elite athlete. Herbert is not as big as Josh but close, don't think he is as athletic. 7. Has the strongest arm in the NFL. Mahomes in here as honorable mention, but I think Josh has him. 8. A desire to win that is crazy. Who else drags Aaron Donald around by the facemask and trucks LBs and CBs on the regular? The guy will do anything to win. There are some gamers out there playing QB, but Josh takes it to a new level. The bottom line is that there are other quarterbacks who have some of the same qualities that Josh has, but not one of them has all of them. Josh is a unicorn and if he is blessed with a little bit of good luck has the potential to be one of the all time greats. Edited July 23, 2022 by Inigo Montoya 1 2 7 3 Quote
Doc Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Definitely trending that way. I just feel all Sugar High Josh will be gone by his 30’s. He will be just Mr. Cool, Calm and Collected. Probably break the single season total TD record. I think Sugar High Josh is gone, at least until his first SB appearance. But after that... 1 Quote
hemma Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Old people don’t sleep I like to take short, refreshing naps at stop signs and stop lights. Helpful citizens use their horns as alarms. 5 Quote
H2o Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 41 minutes ago, Doc said: I think Sugar High Josh is gone, at least until his first SB appearance. But after that... I agree. I believe the Playoff game in KC this year was evidence of that. He was as cool as the other side of the pillow in the 4th quarter, even when all of the pressure was squarely on his shoulders, and put the team in position to win the game multiple times. 3 Quote
JerseyBills Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 3 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: I know Mac Jones Oops .. he actually went with one Joshua Allen without hesitation though he stated he hated to state it. Talked about his growth and his very evident leadership. This would be great coming from a teammate .. but teammates say those things as do opponents who are trying to avoid bulletin board material. It is far more compelling IMHO coming from somebody who played for a hated rival and is now on the outside. I heard this live in the car. I just discovered this station here in the Tri State Area 103.9 fm . I was smiling from ear to ear while listening. Heavy props and he didn't hesitate with his answer. SB OR Bust . Lfg Quote
Chicken Boo Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: I don’t think Josh Allen will even reach his peak until he’s like 32. I think the game will be ultra slow to him by then. OMG just think about that. The 5252 mark, like on a vehicle dyno chart. The point in the rev range where horsepower and torque will always cross paths. For athletes, I liken it to the point where athleticism (torque) meets IQ (horsepower). 30-32 is about right. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Youre right, but there are still people out there who give the nod to Mahomes over Allen and what really purses me off is lazy reporting about the Chiefs loss last year in the playoffs. As if it was Josh’s fault. The cool thing is this is going to be a Brady/Manning rivalry and the national media will take sides. Before that like is middle aged guys was a Kelly/Marino rivalry. I always thought Elway was that third rail. In that way I see possibly Herbert to be our third rail. Man it’s going to be a fun decade or longer if everyone stays healthy. Huh? who said that? Quote
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