Tiberius Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, ArdmoreRyno said: Weird, because the GOP is predicted (by every news outlet) to win both the House and Senate. State gov. are projected to be around 50-50. Ok, we will see See what happened to Sarah Palin last night in Red Alaska?
Tiberius Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 Quote Some were already mothers, excited about having another baby. Others were upset or frightened to find themselves pregnant. All tested positive for drugs. And when these women lost their pregnancies, each ended up in jail. More than 50 women have been prosecuted for child neglect or manslaughter in the United States since 1999 because they tested positive for drug use after a miscarriage or stillbirth, according to an investigation by the Marshall Project, the Frontier and AL.com that was co-edited and published in partnership with The Washington Post. The medical community calls this legal approach harmful and counterproductive. But it’s a strategy many legal experts say is likely to become more common now that Roe v. Wade has been overturned, making it easier for states to pass laws that give fetuses and embryos the same rights as children or mothers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/01/prosecutions-drugs-miscarriages-meth-stillbirths/
B-Man Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Well...I'm pretty sure you guys just handed Democrats a winning issue and saved the lives of thousands of infants, a good trade. .
Tiberius Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, B-Man said: and saved the lives of thousands of infants, a good trade. . Fake. You guys did all in your power to hurt people by denying health insurance and now claim to care. Sad
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 29 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ok, we will see See what happened to Sarah Palin last night in Red Alaska? It's Sarah Palin? That's what happened.
BillStime Posted September 1, 2022 Posted September 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, B-Man said: and saved the lives of thousands of infants, a good trade. . You don't care about INFANTS... please stop. 1
BillStime Posted September 6, 2022 Posted September 6, 2022 A wonderful strategy that is NOT embraced by a majority of Americans. Transforming America, @Doc style
Backintheday544 Posted September 6, 2022 Posted September 6, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 2:08 PM, ArdmoreRyno said: Weird, because the GOP is predicted (by every news outlet) to win both the House and Senate. State gov. are projected to be around 50-50. I feel like you missed some stuff. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/ 538 now had the Dems as a 69 out of 100 chance of winning the Senate. Mitch came out and acknowledge they probably won’t win the Senate: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/mcconnell-says-republicans-may-not-win-senate-control-citing-candidate-rcna43777 Politico has Senate as a toss up and House only as likely Republican: https://www.politico.com/2022-election/race-forecasts-ratings-and-predictions/ PredictIt has Rep House and Dem Senate as a pretty big favorite: https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7172/What-will-be-the-balance-of-power-in-Congress-after-the-2022-election 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Backintheday544 said: I feel like you missed some stuff. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-election-forecast/senate/ 538 now had the Dems as a 69 out of 100 chance of winning the Senate. Mitch came out and acknowledge they probably won’t win the Senate: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/mcconnell-says-republicans-may-not-win-senate-control-citing-candidate-rcna43777 Politico has Senate as a toss up and House only as likely Republican: https://www.politico.com/2022-election/race-forecasts-ratings-and-predictions/ PredictIt has Rep House and Dem Senate as a pretty big favorite: https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7172/What-will-be-the-balance-of-power-in-Congress-after-the-2022-election I didn't miss anything. Last Thursday when I posted my reply, the numbers were as what I said. Those will change, like they did. Some people forget, over 1,000,000 democrats switched parties the past year due to the handling of covid by blue states. That is still something people haven't forgot... businesses closing down due to moronic policies by states like California.
Doc Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: I didn't miss anything. Last Thursday when I posted my reply, the numbers were as what I said. Those will change, like they did. Some people forget, over 1,000,000 democrats switched parties the past year due to the handling of covid by blue states. That is still something people haven't forgot... businesses closing down due to moronic policies by states like California. Just wait until gas prices start rising again in October. Along with everything else.
Backintheday544 Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: I didn't miss anything. Last Thursday when I posted my reply, the numbers were as what I said. Those will change, like they did. Some people forget, over 1,000,000 democrats switched parties the past year due to the handling of covid by blue states. That is still something people haven't forgot... businesses closing down due to moronic policies by states like California. The numbers were not that a week ago. Mitch came out in mid- August and conceded the Senate is probably lost. 538 had the swing for Dems in the Senate around mid-July. You point out the 1,000,000 person switch. That was pre-Dobbs and neglects the crazy upsurge in women registering to vote (we’ve seen this have an impact on Kansas where women voter registration increased 70 percent and then soundly defeated a referendum on abortion). It also neglects the 630,000 Republicans who switch to Dems in the same period. If you honestly thought as of last Thursday the Republicans were definitely or had a very good chance of winning the senate you’re either out of touch with the news or have reading comprehension issues. As a recent test, we saw the Republicans lose a special election in Alaska where they held the seat since 1982!!! Edited September 7, 2022 by Backintheday544 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 47 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: The numbers were not that a week ago. Mitch came out in mid- August and conceded the Senate is probably lost. 538 had the swing for Dems in the Senate around mid-July. You point out the 1,000,000 person switch. That was pre-Dobbs and neglects the crazy upsurge in women registering to vote (we’ve seen this have an impact on Kansas where women voter registration increased 70 percent and then soundly defeated a referendum on abortion). It also neglects the 630,000 Republicans who switch to Dems in the same period. If you honestly thought as of last Thursday the Republicans were definitely or had a very good chance of winning the senate you’re either out of touch with the news or have reading comprehension issues. As a recent test, we saw the Republicans lose a special election in Alaska where they held the seat since 1982!!! Dude, chill out. I never said anything about "pre" or "post" Dobbs. You are assuming abortion is the NUMBER ONE ISSUE in the election coming up. It's not. And my post last week was 100% what I said in my reply before. Those were the projections posted by Politico. Not me. They project a 226-209 seat advantage in the House. When I posted that, it had a slight edge to the GOP in the Senate. https://www.politico.com/2022-election/race-forecasts-ratings-and-predictions/ 1
Tiberius Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Dude, chill out. I never said anything about "pre" or "post" Dobbs. You are assuming abortion is the NUMBER ONE ISSUE in the election coming up. It's not. And my post last week was 100% what I said in my reply before. Those were the projections posted by Politico. Not me. They project a 226-209 seat advantage in the House. When I posted that, it had a slight edge to the GOP in the Senate. https://www.politico.com/2022-election/race-forecasts-ratings-and-predictions/ I wonder how it all will go if the House is split by the narrowest majority, like one or two votes. Boy would that give power to a few people who could hold up everything if they don't get their way
BillStime Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Dude, chill out. I never said anything about "pre" or "post" Dobbs. You are assuming abortion is the NUMBER ONE ISSUE in the election coming up. It's not. And my post last week was 100% what I said in my reply before. Those were the projections posted by Politico. Not me. They project a 226-209 seat advantage in the House. When I posted that, it had a slight edge to the GOP in the Senate. https://www.politico.com/2022-election/race-forecasts-ratings-and-predictions/ Abortion isn't the NUMBER ONE ISSUE but what is driving record number of women to register to vote? Gee, I wonder. Please tell us - what IS the NUMBER ONE ISSUE?
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I wonder how it all will go if the House is split by the narrowest majority, like one or two votes. Boy would that give power to a few people who could hold up everything if they don't get their way The whole thing is interesting to see play out. You have the people fed up with how the current administration is handling things (and have been) then you have the abortion side of things. We will find out soon enough which was more of a pressing issue.
Doc Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 It's interesting to hear about the "soul of a nation" when more than a few people's #1 issue is being able to end a life in utero mid-way through the 2nd trimester up to and right after birth. Which, as I said and my Dem colleague realizes and told me yesterday, it's primarily about life, not restricting a woman's rights. But Dems have to spin it that way. 1
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Abortion isn't the NUMBER ONE ISSUE but what is driving record number of women to register to vote? Gee, I wonder. Please tell us - what IS the NUMBER ONE ISSUE? Did I say women? I said "number one issue" as in OVERALL to voters. Or are you going to do what you do best... assume things. The number one issue to voters is the economy. It normally is the number on issue in every election going back for a decade where terrorism and homeland secruity topped it all after 9/11. Gas prices, inflation, or other economic issues... those are THE biggest thing people worry about. In fact, here are the numbers via Quinnipiac: 34% economy 12% gun violence Nothing else is in double digits in regards to what voters care about. Breaking it down by party: GOP 48% economy 16% immigration Dems 22% gun violence 14% abortion 12% election laws 11% climate change Ind. 41% inflation (nothing else was in double digits)
BillStime Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Did I say women? I said "number one issue" as in OVERALL to voters. Or are you going to do what you do best... assume things. The number one issue to voters is the economy. It normally is the number on issue in every election going back for a decade where terrorism and homeland secruity topped it all after 9/11. Gas prices, inflation, or other economic issues... those are THE biggest thing people worry about. In fact, here are the numbers via Quinnipiac: 34% economy 12% gun violence Nothing else is in double digits in regards to what voters care about. Breaking it down by party: GOP 48% economy 16% immigration Dems 22% gun violence 14% abortion 12% election laws 11% climate change Ind. 41% inflation (nothing else was in double digits) Why are women coming out in droves to register to vote?
ArdmoreRyno Posted September 7, 2022 Posted September 7, 2022 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: Why are women coming out in droves to register to vote? I never said anything about abortion or women. I talked about what the main issues are to American voters right now and where the projections in Congress are looking.
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