Impact of Dobbs and Abortion Laws

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Still having an impact 

 

 

Somewhat, yes. 
 

Also, Kelly was outspent 24M to 17M. 
 

But hey, Lindsey Graham is on tv begging people to donate to Trump.. 

[BillStime]

This will settle well w voters. 
 

The GQP is destroying itself.

 

 

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

This will settle well w voters. 
 

The GQP is destroying itself.

 

 

‘member when conservatives were against judicial activism…

[Andy1]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/matthew-kacsmaryk-mifepristone-medication-abortion-supreme-court.html

 

It is probably impossible to count how many errors, exaggerations, and lies Kacsmaryk, a Donald Trump appointee, put in his decision. The judge appears to have largely copied and pasted the briefs filed by the anti-abortion group that filed the suit, the Alliance Defending Freedom, rephrasing their arguments as his own analysis. (This was predictable—Kacsmaryk himself is a staunch anti-abortion activist—and might be why ADF handpicked him specifically to hear the case for them.) His decision repeats the ridiculous and objectively false conspiracy theory about mifepristone—that the FDA illegally rushed its approval in 2000 at the behest of former President Bill Clinton, the pharmaceutical industry, and population control advocates. Kacsmaryk flyspecked the FDA’s assessment of the drug, concluding that its studies were insufficient and that the agency “acquiesced to the pressure to increase access to chemical abortion at the expense of women’s safety.” And he claimed that he had authority to revisit an FDA approval that occurred 23 years ago because the agency happens to have changed rules around the dispensation of the drug several times since.

This is all completely absurd, an outrageous abuse of power that no judge has ever even attempted before. Challenges to agency actions have a six-year statute of limitations. That means plaintiffs get a full six years to file a lawsuit, after which point they’ve waited too long. It has, just to reiterate, been more than two decades since the FDA approved mifepristone. Kascmaryk ignored that limitation in his quest to block the drug because, he insisted, the agency hadn’t responded quickly enough to citizen petitions opposing the drug. That is not the law.

 

Mark Joseph Stern is a journalist with a law degree. He sometimes overdoes it, but I read the decision itself and I gotta say: his summary nails it. This is one of the most poorly reasoned, purely result-oriented decisions I've ever seen. The Republicans are now beating the Democrats at their own game: filing lawsuits in federal district courts where they can get a favorable judge. But its even worse now since they can game their lawsuits by filing in a location where there is just one judge on the bench - Amarillo, Texas. That's right. A single anti-abortion Trump appointed judge in Amarillo, Texas is now running abortion policy nationwide. Obviously we need to change the rule: this decision should, at most, apply to this judge's district in Texas.

[BillStime]

Communists - right @LeviF @BillsFanNC

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

They talk safety while banning that drug. but if they really cared about safety, they would just ban Doctors from prescribing it at some week limit. as the health risk are if it's taken too late.

 

on a side note, its kind of crazy that you see those drugs being sold on social media next to/same places as recreational drugs.  It's not supposed to be this way.

 

people will get hurt from this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

They talk safety while banning that drug. but if they really cared about safety, they would just ban Doctors from prescribing it at some week limit. as the health risk are if it's taken too late.

 

on a side note, its kind of crazy that you see those drugs being sold on social media next to/same places as recreational drugs.  It's not supposed to be this way.

 

people will get hurt from this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Remember when you could buy a gun at Walmart?

 

smfh

[Tiberius]

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

Remember when you could buy a gun at Walmart?

 

smfh

I dont know where you live, but the Walmart's around here if anything have muzzle loaders and shotguns.  and only sell shotgun ammo.

 

but nice canned talking point

 

Back to topic, someone taking those drugs without a doctor's watch, or taking to late can cause severe issues for MOM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Back to topic, someone taking those drugs without a doctor's watch, or taking to late can cause severe issues for MOM

 

You can get Mifepristone without a prescription?

 

[Tommy Callahan]

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

You can get  without a prescription?

 

Right now it seems to be a popular drug on the black market.  its cheap as hell in Mexico and Canada.  

 

And the abortion pill is both mifepristone and misoprostol BTW.

 

if one takes that after 3 months they could do severe damage to themselves

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

Just now, Chris farley said:

Right now it seems to be a popular drug on the black market.  its cheap as hell in Mexico and Canada.  

 

And the abortion pill is both mifepristone and misoprostol BTW.

 

if one takes that after 3 months they could do severe damage to themselves

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Give me a f'n break - you can get ANYTHING in Mexio, Canada, and off the internet.

 

JFC

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

Give me a f'n break - you can get ANYTHING in Mexio, Canada, and off the internet.

 

JFC

 

 

you on the roids or something?  did you get them off the internet?

 

 by banning them women will get them from other sources (like you parroted) and if taken after 3 months or without a doctor checkup, people will get hurt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

you on the roids or something?  did you get them off the internet?

 

 by banning them women will get them from other sources (like you parroted) and if taken after 3 months or without a doctor checkup, people will get hurt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Roids - idiots - idiots everywhere 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

Roids - idiots - idiots everywhere 

 

like you stated, you can just buy them off the internet.

 

 

[BillStime]

@Chris farley is what happens when the cult defends EVERYTHING MAGA does even when they don’t have intellect to do so.  

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, BillStime said:

@Chris farley is what happens when the cult defends EVERYTHING MAGA does even when they don’t have intellect to do so.  

TDS, dude lives in your head.  

wasn't the orange dude that pushed the Mississippi law with a 15 week limit to the supreme court.  that was a highly funded PAC.

 

just saying.

 

later

 

 

 

 

[Andy1]

There is already a shortage of doctors in America. Looks like the problem will be getting worse in Idaho. 

[Tommy Callahan]

10 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

There is already a shortage of doctors in America. Looks like the problem will be getting worse in Idaho. 

that hospital only had 250 babies delivered last year. rural hospitals across the country are closing and hurting, due to COVID and not making money..its a real problem.  here is a link from a hospital 50 mins from that one doing the same thing cause they only delivered 50 babies last year. neither have any NICU's either.

 

https://idahocapitalsun.com/briefs/another-idaho-hospital-announces-it-can-no-longer-deliver-babies/#:~:text=The COVID-19 pandemic%2C a,announcement posted to its website.

 

but agree, its all messed up. some states are promoting abortion to birth for mental health, while others are damn near banning it.

 

But rural hospitals stopping services like day surgeries and maternity words is and has been an issue.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2023 by Chris farley