Impact of Dobbs and Abortion Laws

[Andy1]

Well, people last night voted to affirm abortion rights in all states where it was on the ballot. Voters in KY, MI, VT, CA & MT chose to protect womens rights. That is about as diverse a group of states as you could choose. 

 

It is pretty clear now how most Americans feel about this issue. I would expect Democrats to push to get this issue on ballots in other states in future elections.

[SoCal Deek]

13 hours ago, SCBills said:

Nobody in blue states, that understand abortion law, is concerned. 

It’s a political football for dumb people.  
 

Smart people who want power just throw it around. 
 

Hochul convinced people Zeldin was going to make abortion illegal in NY.   There’s absolutely zero chance he can do anything to abortion if he wanted to, but most voters are easily manipulated and/or lack intelligence (on both sides)

 

This is strictly anecdotal but out here in midnight deep blue California there were almost ZERO television ads for a ballot measure to make abortion part of the State’s Constitution. Instead, the ballot measure we heard about for the last six months day in and day out was regarding Indian Casinos and Sports Gambling.  “Dobbs on the Ballot”….hardly. 

[Tiberius]

Abortion will still be a hot topic in 2024. Dems can work referendums into several key battleground states to pump up the margins. 

 

That's what Bush did in 2004 with gay marriage bans 

[BillStime]

It mattered

 

 

[Tiberius]

On 7/20/2022 at 3:03 PM, Wacka said:

ALL the Dobbs decision did was uphold the 10th Amendment.

lol 

On 7/21/2022 at 8:26 AM, SoCal Deek said:

 
 

If I was a betting man I’d say the majority of states will end up with a first trimester limit on abortion.   

I bet you would lose that bet 

On 8/31/2022 at 9:46 PM, TSOL said:

 

 

Between 6-800,000 abortions per year in this country depending on whose numbers you look at. That's more than COVID "killed" in it's first year. 

 

Why you hate baby's so much 

That's the spirit! This anti-abortion sentiment is what is killing the GOP. DeSantis is as tied to it as Trump is 

[SoCal Deek]

28 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

lol 

I bet you would lose that bet 

That's the spirit! This anti-abortion sentiment is what is killing the GOP. DeSantis is as tied to it as Trump is 

Oh brother. Keep right on cheering for abortion Tibs! (Not a good look.)

[TSOL]

58 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

That's the spirit! This anti-abortion sentiment is what is killing the GOP. DeSantis is as tied to it as Trump is 

 

 

You are right. It is, it's losing the GOP basically all women's vote. 

 

It's just so immoral though. 

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

You are right. It is, it's losing the GOP basically all women's vote. 

 

It's just so immoral though. 

I wonder what proactive measures we can take to cut back on abortion?

 

Is there anything we should impose on… men?

[TSOL]

12 minutes ago, BillStime said:

I wonder what proactive measures we can take to cut back on abortion?

 

Is there anything we should impose on… men?

 

 

Is the right to terminate your unborn child a human right? 

[ChiGoose]

7 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

Is the right to terminate your unborn child a human right? 

If the concern was truly about elective pregnancies, the GOP would push root cause mitigations. 
 

But it’s not, so they don’t. 

[BillStime]

9 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

Is the right to terminate your unborn child a human right? 

Answer the question 

[TSOL]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

If the concern was truly about elective pregnancies, the GOP would push root cause mitigations. 
 

But it’s not, so they don’t. 

 

 

It's a really tough issue for many people on a spiritual level. 

 

I understand that the cat is not going back in the bag. Not to claim some sort of moral high ground, none of us are perfect. It's just a tough issue from a morality standpoint, for me, and many others. 

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

It's a really tough issue for many people on a spiritual level. 

 

I understand that the cat is not going back in the bag. Not to claim some sort of moral high ground, none of us are perfect. It's just a tough issue from a morality standpoint, for me, and many others. 

I get that. And if one’s goal was to fix what they viewed as a problem, they should conduct a root cause analysis or study. 
 

If the problem is elective abortions, then we should ask: why are people getting elective abortions?

 

There are likely many different reasons and I know there are studies on this very topic as well. 
 

If we’re not addressing the root causes of a problem, we’re are only treating the symptoms and not solving the problem. 
 

Best part is, many liberals would support policies combating some of the root causes, so there’s bipartisan potential there. 

[TSOL]

29 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

I get that. And if one’s goal was to fix what they viewed as a problem, they should conduct a root cause analysis or study. 
 

If the problem is elective abortions, then we should ask: why are people getting elective abortions?

 

There are likely many different reasons and I know there are studies on this very topic as well. 
 

If we’re not addressing the root causes of a problem, we’re are only treating the symptoms and not solving the problem. 
 

Best part is, many liberals would support policies combating some of the root causes, so there’s bipartisan potential there. 

 

 

Make them cost $3500 bucks 

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

I wonder what proactive measures we can take to cut back on abortion?

 

Is there anything we should impose on… men?

Okay….I’m game….what would you suggest we impose? 

[BillStime]

49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Okay….I’m game….what would you suggest we impose? 

You tell us what you’re willing to give - go 

[Tiberius]

15 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Oh brother. Keep right on cheering for abortion Tibs! (Not a good look.)

You just make sure you stay consistent! We don't want you guys losing your morals just to win. 

15 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

 

You are right. It is, it's losing the GOP basically all women's vote. 

 

It's just so immoral though. 

You anti-abortion people really screwed the GOP over. Keep up the good work! 

On 11/7/2022 at 5:36 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

Absolutely Dobbs Was Worth It

BY: DAVID HARSANYI

 

There’s little evidence the Dobbs decision is sinking Republicans

 

 

Good old Federalist society! They pick our judges for us. Idiots! 

[TSOL]

42 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You just make sure you stay consistent! We don't want you guys losing your morals just to win. 

You anti-abortion people really screwed the GOP over. Keep up the good work! 

Good old Federalist society! They pick our judges for us. Idiots! 

 

 

I'm uncomfortable in a society where abortions are so popular.

 

Also, the fact that planned Parenthood are strategically  situated in the projects and on main bus routes across our nation, is seriously disturbing. 

 

But you guys get the baby killer vote so you should be so proud of yourselves 

[BillStime]

30 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

I'm uncomfortable in a society where abortions are so popular.

 

Also, the fact that planned Parenthood are strategically  situated in the projects and on main bus routes across our nation, is seriously disturbing. 

 

But you guys get the baby killer vote so you should be so proud of yourselves 

So we can put you down as a YES for mandatory vasectomies for each male when they reach puberty that is only reversible when they are ready to start a family?

[TSOL]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

So we can put you down as a YES for mandatory vasectomies for each male when they reach puberty that is only reversible when they are ready to start a family?

 

 

Sure, and I'll check you off in the "morally bankrupt" column. 

 

Fair enough?