transient Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: I heard he is going to work at a recruiting office and be a full time headhunter... Funny, I heard he was going to join forces with Kyle Turley and Albert Haynesworth and start an anger management counseling service. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 I think if he managed to get clean and sober about 75% of the issues would immediately fall off. Too bad for most of us, you can't 'just quit' the way I decide to stop fn with KitKats Quote
Augie Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: I think if he managed to get clean and sober about 75% of the issues would immediately fall off. Too bad for most of us, you can't 'just quit' the way I decide to stop fn with KitKats I’m afraid it’s a vicious cycle, a chicken AND the egg kinda thing. He needs to be mentally healthy as well as sober, and they go hand in hand. It’s tough, but I will pray for the best for him. We have a little too much experience with how tricky that balancing act can be. 2 2 Quote
Jerome007 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 He was soooo good in the run game. He and Shady were MONEY. But regardless of his mental issues, he likely was beat up physically too, he's no spring chicken. 1 Quote
BuffaloBill Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 I wish him well. He is clearly a tortured human being. 2 Quote
John from Riverside Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: E Wood seems to be a strong support anchor for him. Hope it works. Eric Wood is the man love them but it didn’t help Richie the last time that he went off a cliff that Eric was his friend 1 1 Quote
Dopey Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 5 hours ago, NoSaint said: Unfortunately, I suspect losing this structure will not be great for him… but who knows, maybe football was a contributor to his chaos and it will take some edge off Definitely agree with your first sentiment. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 6 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: He was a solid player for us. I worry for him that sometime down the road he will end up with CTE and all that goes with it. hoping for a happy retirement That was 10 years ago... Quote
NoSaint Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 7 hours ago, BarleyNY said: That’s hopeful. It’d be great if it went that way for him. I hope he turns it around and it does, but I fear that won’t be the case. I agree. who knows. Injuries, coaches enabling him and who knows what kind of mess of pain killers, and steroids can’t be good for an already off kilter guy. but have to worry that losing structure, support, and having his identity out the window is a pretty huge risk for him it’ll likely never be a linear journey for him either way. Just hope the highs are high and the lows aren’t too low. Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, NoSaint said: I agree. who knows. Injuries, coaches enabling him and who knows what kind of mess of pain killers, and steroids can’t be good for an already off kilter guy. but have to worry that losing structure, support, and having his identity out the window is a pretty huge risk for him it’ll likely never be a linear journey for him either way. Just hope the highs are high and the lows aren’t too low. So right after the whole thing with Jonathan Martin happened my son played baseball. It was the first year of kid pitch and it was brutal. So many walks, so few hits. In any event, I had a lot of time on my hands that season. I read every text between them that was published. I honestly don’t think he was bullying Martin, but those texts painted a rough picture of Incognito. Lots of machismo, hard partying, strippers, hookers, etc. Not like “this guy like to party!” More like “This guy parties 24/7/365! How can he do that?” Sometimes people learn that they can’t live like that for long and sometimes they don’t. Edited July 16, 2022 by BarleyNY 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Augie said: I’m afraid it’s a vicious cycle, a chicken AND the egg kinda thing. He needs to be mentally healthy as well as sober, and they go hand in hand. It’s tough, but I will pray for the best for him. We have a little too much experience with how tricky that balancing act can be. It's a little easier to get to the Rock bottom needed, when the checks keep rolling in. Not trolling, not joking, the best thing aside from a miraculous prayer healing, is the money to get ate up as fast as humanly possible, and hope the money runs out before he dies. Hell I was living check to check and i still almost died first. 4 or 5 nfl contracts in my bank and think my chances of recovery were next to zero. Cunning, baffling, powerful. 2 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: It's a little easier to get to the Rock bottom needed, when the checks keep rolling in. Not trolling, not joking, the best thing aside from a miraculous prayer healing, is the money to get ate up as fast as humanly possible, and hope the money runs out before he dies. Hell I was living check to check and i still almost died first. 4 or 5 nfl contracts in my bank and think my chances of recovery were next to zero. Cunning, baffling, powerful. Glad you turned it all around and that you’re doing well these days. You should be proud of yourself. 1 1 Quote
Buffalo716 Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Does Richie know this? I’m sure his other personality will figure it out in a few weeks Quote
Bad Things Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 All the best to you, mate! Thanks for being a Bill. Quote
benderbender Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 In the ultimate irony, I heard Jonathan Martin bullied him into retiring. Unconfirmed accounts say that he kept smacking Richie with his own hands and saying, "Quit retiring yourself!" Followed by prank calls asking him if his career was running. Quote
skibum Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 Despite dealing with serious mental health issues, he was the best guard the Bills have had since Ruben Brown. By a significant margin, I would say. 2 Quote
MJS Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 Unfortunately, I think he needs football and I worry about what he will do without it. But who knows? Maybe he is in a better place now. Quote
Rigby Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 Hope the dude gets some kind of professional help as he clearly needs it. Quote
Nextmanup Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 17 hours ago, BuffaloBill said: I wish him well. He is clearly a tortured human being. "Tortured?" Nah... He has a drinking problem. When he keeps it under control he's an intelligent, well spoken, nice guy. When he's lit up he turns insane. Quote
Another Fan Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, BarleyNY said: So right after the whole thing with Jonathan Martin happened my son played baseball. It was the first year of kid pitch and it was brutal. So many walks, so few hits. In any event, I had a lot of time on my hands that season. I read every text between them that was published. I honestly don’t think he was bullying Martin, but those texts painted a rough picture of Incognito. Lots of machismo, hard partying, strippers, hookers, etc. Not like “this guy like to party!” More like “This guy parties 24/7/365! How can he do that?” Sometimes people learn that they can’t live like that for long and sometimes they don’t. I remember reading Kosar's Learning to Scramble book years back. He addressed Martin and Incognito in it. Pretty much he felt in any other walk or aspect of life his full sympathy would be with Martin. But in the NFL it's kind of its own beast and he thought Richie was just trying to "toughen him" up so to speak. I think there's something too that. I don't actually think Richie disliked him per say. That's just him expressing himself in his way. Not that I particularly like the Richie approach just sayin'. Edited July 16, 2022 by Another Fan 1 Quote
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