B-Man Posted January 31 Posted January 31 French Farmers Tighten Their Grip on Paris – Revolt Spreads to Belgium" Now this is what should be happening everywhere. Not just a protest, but they're expanding it. They've got food and water, they're working together to provide what their group needs, it's everybody else who needs productive farms and the rulers are preventing that from happening. What are they going to do, arrest the farmers and find someone else who has the slightest clue how this works? Before planting season? If they really have shut down Paris, that's more of a revolutionary mindset than I'd expected, and it's very nice to hear. Especially with it spreading to Belgium, the heart of the EU. Basically everyone in Brussels is in the ruling class or works directly for them, so Paris having these problems must be very frightening. I'm just being pessimistic in saying this won't go anywhere, but I certainly hope to be proven wrong. The EU already has problems with its servants disagreeing with them about Ukraine and all the other economic problems. More than anyone else, Europe knows that if the US isn't there to help, they're totally on their own.
Roundybout Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I hate farmers, they’re mostly over subsidized losers going kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Automated greenhouses can do everything they do for cheaper. 1 1 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I hate farmers, they’re mostly over subsidized losers going kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Automated greenhouses can do everything they do for cheaper. I know you are young and you have previously shown yourself not to be technically sharp with your comments about balloon deflation. Are you familiar with the meaning of “jumped the shark”? It’s what you have done with this post. Edited January 31 by JDHillFan 1
Roundybout Posted January 31 Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: I know you are young and you have previously shown yourself not to be technically sharp with your comments about balloon deflation. Are you familiar with the meaning of “jumped the shark”? It’s what you have done with this post. Just wait until I’ve finished my coffee 1
Tommy Callahan Posted January 31 Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Just wait until I’ve finished my coffee Your posting history proves that to be false. What you mean is you need to hop on msm and get some talking points to parrot.
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted January 31 Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Just wait until I’ve finished my coffee Fingers crossed that you make more sense than “opposing unlimited illegal immigration makes you a racist. Also fk loser farmers and their farms”. 1
Roundybout Posted January 31 Posted January 31 16 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Your posting history proves that to be false. What you mean is you need to hop on msm and get some talking points to parrot. Curious why republicans support these particular people shutting down roadways but not the BLM protestors shutting down roadways 9 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Fingers crossed that you make more sense than “opposing unlimited illegal immigration makes you a racist. Also fk loser farmers and their farms”. I never said “fk farmers” I said I hate how we subsidize their archaic methods and have to coddle them. 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted January 31 Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: never said “fk farmers” I said I hate how we subsidize their archaic methods and have to coddle them. “I hate farmers, they’re mostly over subsidized losers” Splitting hairs a bit aren’t you? A second or two of thought before hitting “submit reply” is a good thing. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) The immediate factor in the French farmer revolt: agricultural use diesel fuel was taxed at a lower level than regular transport diesel. The French government wanted to equalize this. Farmers revolted, the plan was withdrawn. OK, fair to say that the French government proposal was to "raise taxes" on farmers. But that's not the whole story. The whole story is the EU/French subsidies paid to farmers, and EU protectionism keeping out imported agricultural products: https://www.arc2020.eu/agriculture-atlas-biggest-beneficiary/ The agricultural sector in France would be significantly smaller if subsidies were ended. In other words, the French government and the EU prop up French farmers through a complex web of subsidies and import restrictions. The farmer rebellion is mostly about "how dare you propose to stop subsidizing my business," not about ending some kind of socialism. "Don't end socialism; it helps me" is the real rallying cry here. Edited January 31 by The Frankish Reich 1
US Egg Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Silly farmers, what are they gonna tell us next? That Globalist want to stop building roads to save the planet…. ……too late. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jun/23/halt-new-roads-and-developments-adding-to-emissions-advisers-to-tell-uk-government 2
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 31 Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: I hate farmers, they’re mostly over subsidized losers going kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Automated greenhouses can do everything they do for cheaper. Automating farming sounds like a good argument against illegal immigration. If we can automate farming then why does the left insist we need to import millions of unskilled migrants to do tasks such as farm work that they say no Americans will do? What it means is they're supporting the policy of importing millions of people to put them on social assistance programs so its just more subsidized losers. 1 2
Tommy Callahan Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Most successfully countries have some kinds of tariffs to protect their economies. Biden did with semi conductors. In 2021 increased tariffs on European wine. The EU is removing them in the name of free trade. These farmers know what that will result in. @Roundybout these folks are doing this for less authoritarianism/statism. The ones here are AstroTurf and (change the theme based on the msm cycle) and are demanding more statism/authoritarianism. Smarter than the useful idiots running around parroting the msm. 1
B-Man Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Hmmmmmm. Europe farmers protests: EU scraps plans to halve pesticide use The head of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, has announced plans to scrap a proposal halving pesticide use across the EU. The move is an apparent concession to farmers who have been protesting in many EU countries against regulations including the planned reduction in pesticide use. Ms von der Leyen said the proposal had become a "symbol of polarisation". The reversal still needs to be formally approved. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68218907
B-Man Posted February 10 Posted February 10 THE FARMERS ARE WINNING Farm revolts have spread across Europe, most recently in France where farmers blocked roads leading into Paris. Local grievances vary somewhat, but fundamentally farmers have been rebelling against the environmental insanity that afflicts the EU even more than it does the U.S. So farmers have been rebelling on behalf of the rest of us, since left-wing environmental policies are designed to make food (especially meat) vastly more expensive, so as to reduce the standard of living of the average person. And now–for the time being, at least–Brussels has caved: {snip} Well, they should be nervous. The left’s policies are deliberately intended to lower most people’s standard of living. So it is no wonder that they see democracy as an obstacle. But they aren’t going away: “climate change,” the hysteria for all seasons, exists mainly to justify every conceivable extension of government power. The left will regroup and attack again, but for now, it is good to see them going down to defeat. https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/02/the-farmers-win.php
Tommy Callahan Posted February 13 Posted February 13 India back at it. Just like the EU. Main issue is with globalist/free trade implementation that's killing their way of life 2
The Frankish Reich Posted February 15 Posted February 15 On 2/13/2024 at 7:37 AM, Tommy Callahan said: Main issue is with globalist/free trade implementation that's killing their way of life You do realize the USA exports nearly $200 billion of agricultural commodities every year. I guess we should ban those? You'll be real popular in Iowa.
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