Buffalo Sabres and NHL 2022-2023

[T&C]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

This is the first Sabres game in years that i’m actually nervous for! Probably because it’s the first truly meaningful game in years… lol.

 

Well we got a goal so that's a start... seems like they'll be hard to come by this game.

[BillsFan4]

What total BS. If that wasn’t a distinct kicking motion, then what is? These ESPN announcers are nuts, and showing heavy bias.

[T&C]

Well *****... that one I thought would hold as a non goal. 

[BillsFan4]

 

This goal was immediately called off. What could they have possibly seen to overturn the call on the ice? Looks like a distinct kicking motion to me 🤷‍♂️
 

What makes it clear - the puck wouldn’t have gone in the net had he not kicked his leg out. The puck may not have even hit his leg without the kicking motion. It doesn’t have to go off his skate for it to be a kicking motion.

 

such a BS way to lose this game.

Edited March 8, 2023 by BillsFan4

[T&C]

Dammit

[Bray Wyatt]

Is that the definition of a bad officiated hockey game? Missed penalties and a somehow overturned call when it was ruled a non goal? Like what is a distinct kicking motion if not that, does he have to do the equivalent of kicking a field goal? SMH 

[Rockpile233]

That was one of the worst calls I’ve seen in a long time. For it to be overturned? Really tough way to lose such a huge game.

[BillsFan4]

Rule 78.5(I) When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be NO GOAL. A goal cannot be scored when the puck has been deliberately batted with any part of the attacking player’s body into the net.

 

 

Fasching very clearly deliberately directed that puck. That was not a stopping motion. You can see his leg turn and move forward.

 

With that regulation loss and the penguins win in OT, our playoff hopes just took a HUGE hit. They don’t really control their own destiny anymore.

 

Sucks that it happened on such a BS call. Par for the course for Buffalo sports I guess.

[ExiledInIllinois]

[T&C]

His knee/leg moved forward towards the net. ***** Toronto.

[Bray Wyatt]

1 minute ago, T&C said:

His knee/leg moved forward towards the net. ***** Toronto.

I felt bad for my wife, she kept hearing me yell he kicked the damn puck! And that was before it was overturned, then they somehow overturned the overturn

[ExiledInIllinois]

Maybe they politely asked him if he kicked the puck in and he said: "No. Of course not!" 

[T&C]

4 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

I felt bad for my wife, she kept hearing me yell he kicked the damn puck! And that was before it was overturned, then they somehow overturned the overturn

That "goal" reminded me of the "no goal" immediately... we got ripped off this evening.

4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Maybe they politely asked him if he kicked the puck in and he said: "No. Of course not!" 

Did you watch the game?

[SinceThe70s]

1 minute ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Maybe they politely asked him if he kicked the puck in and he said: "No. Of course not!" 

 

Well he didn't actually kick it did he? Hit off his knee so kicking motion doesn't apply?

 

@BillsFan4 pointed out rule about deliberately redirecting - which looks more appropriate. 

 

As an Islander fan I could argue (and replay officlals agreed) that he didn't deliberately re-direct - but if the call on ice was no goal, it should have stood as no goal. Crappy way to win/lose a game. Instant replay reviews suck.

[zow2]

Not even getting a losers point from these last two hard fought games will likely be the end for Buffalo.  Just too hard to leap frog these other teams that seemingly earn points every game. 

[BillsFan4]

3 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Well he didn't actually kick it did he? Hit off his knee so kicking motion doesn't apply?

 

@BillsFan4 pointed out rule about deliberately redirecting - which looks more appropriate. 

 

As an Islander fan I could argue (and replay officlals agreed) that he didn't deliberately re-direct - but if the call on ice was no goal, it should have stood as no goal. Crappy way to win/lose a game. Instant replay reviews suck.

it doesn’t have to go off his skate. The rule applies to using any part of your body besides your stick.

[BillsFan4]

Just now, zow2 said:

Not even getting a losers point from these last two hard fought games will likely be the end for Buffalo.  Just too hard to leap frog these other teams that seemingly earn points every game. 

Yep. They went from controlling their own destiny to now needing other teams to lose to get it. Doesn’t matter though if they don’t start winning games or at least picking up points. Regulation losses are killer this time of year. Tonight especially so. It was basically a 4 point game.

 

My hopes for a Sabres playoff appearance this season are pretty low now.

I’m bummed. 😢 and frustrated with the inconsistent nature of NFL rules and officiating. They may as well flip a damn coin as to how they choose to apply the rules on a given night.

[ExiledInIllinois]

20 minutes ago, T&C said:

Did you watch the game?

No. But saw it.  But I was referencing the booth review asking him. 

[T&C]

12 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

No. But saw it.  But I was referencing the booth review asking him. 

Copy

[SinceThe70s]

Just now, BillsFan4 said:

it doesn’t have to go off his skate. The rule applies to using any part of your body besides your stick.

 

Agreed -  some folks were referring to the kicking motion - pretty sure that's a different rule, no?

 

The rule you referenced calls out a deliberate attempt. As an Islander fan I could argue he was trying to stop/settle the puck and score. As a Sabre fan you're unlikely to ever see it that way. Refs called it no goal in real time - it should've stayed that way. IMO replay sucks more than it doesn't. Crappy way to win/lose a game.