SoCal Deek Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 7:51 PM, T master said: As it should be every other NATO country should pay their own way. Before Trump came in the US was footing a much larger piece of the pie both in money & military every one has always had the US as the sheriff & that's not the way it should be ! If it's all for one & one for all then every one should put in equally have it mirror the NFL system in some way and that way they have everything equally split and no 1 country has the biggest burden weather it be militarily or monetarily . Expand In your scenario are we the New England Patriots? 😉
T master Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 3:08 PM, BillStime said: 🎯 Expand As if the now numerous in the past & present Plagiarizing POTUS and the lying about "if you get the vaccine you won't get the virus & can't spread it" on national TV no less POTUS is any better ?? On 6/29/2022 at 7:54 PM, SoCal Deek said: In your scenario are we the New England Patriots? 😉 Expand Not quite . But if that's the way you see the meaning of my scenario so be it but that's not what i was implying at all .
Doc Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 7:45 PM, SoCal Deek said: You people crack me up with your ridiculous rabbit holes. So if I understand it correctly, this young lady testified that the President wanted to steer the car from the back seat? I’m pretty sure that’s not a crime. Note that she didn’t say that the President said anything even remotely close to anything about wanting to overturn the election, destroy ‘democracy’, or organize a coup. This is all such junior high garbage! Expand That was meant to show that Trump is crazy. It was stupid, but that was their goal. Same with the "there were AR-15s at the rally" claim, which is immaterial because there weren't any outside the Capitol, much less inside. On 6/29/2022 at 7:51 PM, T master said: As it should be every other NATO country should pay their own way. Before Trump came in the US was footing a much larger piece of the pie both in money & military every one has always had the US as the sheriff & that's not the way it should be ! If it's all for one & one for all then every one should put in equally have it mirror the NFL system in some way and that way they have everything equally split and no 1 country has the biggest burden weather it be militarily or monetarily . Expand Yeah. My point being that since Trump and the Repubs want all the countries to equally share it, the Dems will want the US to foot the entire bill.
SoCal Deek Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 7:55 PM, T master said: Not quite . But if that's the way you see the meaning of my scenario so be it but that's not what i was implying at all . Expand Keep your sense of humor T Master. None of this is, or should be, anything more than banter on a message board. 👍 2
T master Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 8:03 PM, Doc said: That was meant to show that Trump is crazy. It was stupid, but that was their goal. Same with the "there were AR-15s at the rally" claim, which is immaterial because there weren't any outside the Capitol, much less inside. Yeah. My point being that since Trump and the Repubs want all the countries to equally share it, the Dems will want the US to foot the entire bill. Expand Got you !! 1
ChiGoose Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 7:45 PM, SoCal Deek said: You people crack me up with your ridiculous rabbit holes. So if I understand it correctly, this young lady testified that the President wanted to steer the car from the back seat? I’m pretty sure that’s not a crime. Note that she didn’t say that the President said anything even remotely close to anything about wanting to overturn the election, destroy ‘democracy’, or organize a coup. This is all such junior high garbage! Expand Her testimony shows: Trump did not care if there were weapons in the crowd Trump wanted to be with the people marching on the Capitol You're right that neither of those things are a crime. You couldn't indict anyone on that. But you build a case through multiple witnesses and testimony. We had multiple people testifying in a previous hearing that Trump wanted to overturn the election and commit crimes. Hutchinson's testimony might be able to support other evidence and testimony, but I still think incitement is a steep hill for a prosecutor to climb. Everyone is playing the jump to conclusions game, here. Trump wanted the metal detectors at the ellipse removed and he wanted to be with the crowd marching on the Capitol. Those are important details. They are not nothing. But they're also not everything.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 7:38 PM, T master said: Yah great job Mr President pissing off our closest allie to the north by stopping the pipe line & them having them eat billions in product costs already built for the pipe line (selling it at scrap prices) then pissing off those countries that wanted the submarines built but couldn't because he screwed the pooch on that one . Oh then don't forget how great a job he did when leaving Afghanistan pulling all military first then leaving all those innocent people there to face the taliban all by them selves oh yah & Putin probably only doing what he is doing because he knows the new POTUS has no balls to retaliate ah great foreign policy there Mr P ! If the expanding of NATO is a good thing & we don't have to pay for every body elses NATO bill or defend whoever else then it might be a good thing but i'm thinking we will probably wind up paying more than most others just because the US is such a nice country ... But 1 out of 10 ain't bad !! Keep up the good work Mr Biden Expand Hello T Master, hope your day is a good one. Stronger NATO. Putin/Trump armies being chewed up and spit out. He got us out of the mess in Afgahistan and has let it be known to China that Taiwan is our friend and we are going to fight for our friends. Good job Mr. Biden! 1 1
B-Man Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 8:12 PM, ChiGoose said: Her testimony shows: Trump did not care if there were weapons in the crowd False Trump wanted to be with the people marching on the Capitol False Expand Her testimony was that she heard this from her boss, who heard it from the Secret Service. You know......................Hearsay. . 1
Doc Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 Vindwoman also said that Mark Meadows sought a pardon. Meadows denies it.
ChiGoose Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 9:12 PM, B-Man said: Her testimony was that she heard this from her boss, who heard it from the Secret Service. You know......................Hearsay. . Expand Actually, she heard the magnometer comment herself. So that is not hearsay. She stated under oath that multiple people told her that Trump wanted to go to the Capitol. The next step would be to get that testimony from those people, like Mark Meadows. Unfortunately, Meadows won't testify because he is worried about perjuring himself.
JDHillFan Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 8:48 PM, Tiberius said: Hello T Master, hope your day is a good one. Stronger NATO. Putin/Trump armies being chewed up and spit out. He got us out of the mess in Afgahistan and has let it be known to China that Taiwan is our friend and we are going to fight for our friends. Good job Mr. Biden! Expand People just don’t appreciate him. You need to start spreading the word. 1 1
JaCrispy Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 3:12 AM, Doc Brown said: Serious question in all this silliness. Is the ultimate goal to make Trump less palatable to Republican primary voters in 2024? Expand This could be a blessing in disguise, for those of us who don’t want Trump to run again… 2
BillStime Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 Oh the cult is scared - only reason why these pathetic threads exist. And…oh:
B-Man Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 3:12 AM, Doc Brown said: Serious question in all this silliness. Is the ultimate goal to make Trump less palatable to Republican primary voters in 2024? Expand Of course. LOL. But people will remember were they were when she testified decades from now.
BillStime Posted June 29, 2022 Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 11:13 PM, B-Man said: Of course. LOL. But people will remember were they were when she testified decades from now. Expand 👆🤣🤡 The cult is scared
SoCal Deek Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 8:12 PM, ChiGoose said: Her testimony shows: Trump did not care if there were weapons in the crowd Trump wanted to be with the people marching on the Capitol You're right that neither of those things are a crime. You couldn't indict anyone on that. But you build a case through multiple witnesses and testimony. We had multiple people testifying in a previous hearing that Trump wanted to overturn the election and commit crimes. Hutchinson's testimony might be able to support other evidence and testimony, but I still think incitement is a steep hill for a prosecutor to climb. Everyone is playing the jump to conclusions game, here. Trump wanted the metal detectors at the ellipse removed and he wanted to be with the crowd marching on the Capitol. Those are important details. They are not nothing. But they're also not everything. Expand Unfortunately you’re wrong. Her testimony doesn’t show whether he wanted to be with the crowd to stop them or urge them on. Since the ONLY words we have from the President were to March peacefully….we have to assume he was intent on stopping the violence. The End 2 1
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 12:19 AM, SoCal Deek said: Unfortunately you’re wrong. Her testimony doesn’t show whether he wanted to be with the crowd to stop them or urge them on. Since the ONLY words we have from the President were to March peacefully….we have to assume he was intent on stopping the violence. The End Expand If you were correct, it would be impossible to prosecute mob bosses. "He said to take care of them! That doesn't mean that he wanted them dead!" Words certainly matter, but actions matter more. If I held a rally down the street from Tom Brady's house and spoke about how upset I was about Tom Brady, and told security that they should allow people to my rally with weapons, and told the audience that they needed to fight like hell or they wouldn't have a country any more, and then told everyone to march to Tom Brady's house, but threw in the word "peacefully" at the end, then I'm all good, right?
SoCal Deek Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) On 6/30/2022 at 12:25 AM, ChiGoose said: If you were correct, it would be impossible to prosecute mob bosses. "He said to take care of them! That doesn't mean that he wanted them dead!" Words certainly matter, but actions matter more. If I held a rally down the street from Tom Brady's house and spoke about how upset I was about Tom Brady, and told security that they should allow people to my rally with weapons, and told the audience that they needed to fight like hell or they wouldn't have a country any more, and then told everyone to march to Tom Brady's house, but threw in the word "peacefully" at the end, then I'm all good, right? Expand Short answer….yes, you’re good. Nobody is guilty of a crime because you think you know what they’re thinking. Our system doesn’t work that way no matter how much you seem desperate that it does. Edited June 30, 2022 by SoCal Deek 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/29/2022 at 11:13 PM, B-Man said: Of course. LOL. But people will remember were they were when she testified decades from now. Expand What a great segment by MK. Fair criticism of Trump’s actions, with a devastating takedown of the dem dog n pony show. 1
ChiGoose Posted June 30, 2022 Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/30/2022 at 12:49 AM, SoCal Deek said: Short answer….yes, you’re good. Nobody is guilty of a crime because you think you know what they’re thinking. Our system doesn’t work that way no matter how much you seem desperate that it does. Expand For the record, I think an incitement charge against Trump has a big hill to climb. But to claim that simply saying "peacefully" negates any other context or history around his other words and actions is laughable. That would be a loophole so big as to allow criminals to run wild. "I want you to go deliver a message to that other gang, but do it peacefully..." Ultimately, in the real world (not the fabulous world of criminal conspiracies being impossible to prosecute that you seem to think we live in), this would be up to a jury to decide. As I said, I am not confident they would decide it against Trump, but to dismiss it out of hand is ridiculous.
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