leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, B-Man said: DISPATCHES FROM WEIMAR AMERICA: Roe-pocalypse Now: “Not only does the Walt Disney Company — formerly the gold standard of American family-friendly wholesomeness — fully favor grooming children into genderqueerness, but now it will pay its female employees to go to pro-abortion states and terminate the lives of their unborn children. If you had predicted this fifty years ago, people would have thought you insane. As Kangmin Lee said, abortion was widely seen as a necessary evil. Now it is considered by the class of people who run most of America as a sacred rite… It is really something to think about how the Left today, post-Dobbs, is left to feel the same things that many of us on the Right have felt over and over again: defeat on an issue that is dear to us. They are not used to losing — not our ruling class. They are used to getting their way, and expecting the rest of us to fall in line and know our places.” https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/roe-pocalypse-now-apocalypse-abortion/ . Disney has been accused of systemically underpaying employees, underpaying and undervaluing it’s female employees, and dodging property tax that would help the communities it serves. https://www.sfgate.com/disneyland/article/25-000-Disneyland-employees-are-suing-Disney-for-16355821.php https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/apr/03/disney-company-women-pay-gap-lawsuit https://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-disneys-luxembourg-tax-strategy-go-too-far/ I suppose one way to take the liberal heat off is selectively partner on watershed issues like this one. The math likely works in their favor in a big way. 1
nedboy7 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, gobills404 said: cute. “Having been given this second chance for Life, we must not rest and must not relent until the sanctity of life is restored to the center of American law in every state in the land,” Vice President Mike Pence said in a statement praising the court’s decision on Friday. so what you saying exactly?
nedboy7 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 Ordinarily, enforcement would be up to government officials, and if clinics wanted to challenge the law’s constitutionality, they would sue those officials in making their case. But the law in Texas prohibits officials from enforcing it. Instead, it takes the opposite approach, effectively deputizing ordinary citizens — including from outside Texas — to sue clinics and others who violate the law. It awards them at least $10,000 per illegal abortion if they are successful. “It’s completely inverting the legal system,” said Stephen Vladeck, a constitutional law professor at the University of Texas at Austin. “It says the state is not going to be the one to enforce this law. Your neighbors are.”
nedboy7 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, B-Man said: You "guess" incorrectly. Reminder: If you’ve had a natural miscarriage, you have not had an abortion. Anyone who tells you otherwise is misinformed or intentionally lying. There is a complete moral AND legal difference between tragically losing a child & intentionally murdering a child. Funny you actually think you care about children. 1
Buffarukus Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Disney has been accused of systemically underpaying employees, underpaying and undervaluing it’s female employees, and dodging property tax that would help the communities it serves. https://www.sfgate.com/disneyland/article/25-000-Disneyland-employees-are-suing-Disney-for-16355821.php https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/apr/03/disney-company-women-pay-gap-lawsuit https://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-disneys-luxembourg-tax-strategy-go-too-far/ I suppose one way to take the liberal heat off is selectively partner on watershed issues like this one. The math likely works in their favor in a big way. not to mention china. discriminating movie posters. changing entire movie plots to not offend them. and of coarse thanking them for letting them film in parts of the country that are currently conducting genocide and concentration camps. seeing as china forced families to toss baby girls in rivers if they had more then one means they are at least consistent with their stance. saying its for womens rights...not so much. these companies that do business in brutal human rights dictatorships really need to keep their mouths shut. but to be fair the people they are signaling to don't seem to mind hipocracy. they can't decide if women even exist. Edited June 25, 2022 by Buffarukus 2
Buffarukus Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Ordinarily, enforcement would be up to government officials, and if clinics wanted to challenge the law’s constitutionality, they would sue those officials in making their case. But the law in Texas prohibits officials from enforcing it. Instead, it takes the opposite approach, effectively deputizing ordinary citizens — including from outside Texas — to sue clinics and others who violate the law. It awards them at least $10,000 per illegal abortion if they are successful. “It’s completely inverting the legal system,” said Stephen Vladeck, a constitutional law professor at the University of Texas at Austin. “It says the state is not going to be the one to enforce this law. Your neighbors are.” just curious if you were in favor of this tactic when introduced for gatherings during covid? im not defending texas here. im against this..as i am on record for covid authoritarianism. how bout you? 1
FireChans Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: cute. “Having been given this second chance for Life, we must not rest and must not relent until the sanctity of life is restored to the center of American law in every state in the land,” Vice President Mike Pence said in a statement praising the court’s decision on Friday. so what you saying exactly? Mike Pence doesn't work in the federal government anymore. It was a whole big thing, you may have head about it. 1
nedboy7 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buffarukus said: just curious if you were in favor of this tactic when introduced for gatherings during covid? im not defending texas here. im against this..as i am on record for covid authoritarianism. how bout you? I am not aware of such a thing during covid and no I do not support getting private citizens to spy on others. I also am against vaccine mandates. Edited June 25, 2022 by nedboy7
nedboy7 Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Mike Pence doesn't work in the federal government anymore. It was a whole big thing, you may have head about it. You serious? What an argument. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), for one, allowed that a national abortion ban was “possible” after the initial leak of the Supreme Court’s draft decision. Last week, Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) he would back a federal ban because “any of us that believe this is wrong, it’s wrong, period.” House Republican leaders — including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Republican Study Committee chair Jim Banks, and Judiciary ranking member Jim Jordan — are already lining up to support legislation that would impose a nationwide ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy Republicans have also indicated that they plan to reintroduce the “Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act” if they recapture the House majority. That bill would put in place requirements for the care of infants born after failed, late-term abortions and could send doctors to prison if they fail to comply. Reproductive rights and physician groups have previously opposed the legislation on the basis that it could criminalize doctors and is duplicative of existing laws that already support infants in these very rare cases. You weirdos are even against contraception. That's next. What you think of the Supreme Court wanting to go after gay marriage next.
Buffarukus Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: I am not aware of such a thing during covid and no I do not support getting private citizens to spy on others. Are you in favor? they had that going on in california for awhile. they were even cutting off utilities in houses if neighbors informed them that gatherings were not in compliance. im glad to hear you were not in support of that. of coarse im not as well. just wondering because its pretty easy to see who is a blind ideologue and who has principals by just seeing if they shift based purely off political backing. on the thread topic its very strange because the left is running against its own logic. they are talking about womens rights yet many of the same people have decided "women" are just a social construct. they applaud when someone appropriates them. the mandatory vax people are now saying my body my choice then do backflips mentally to try and justify the position change when the answer is simple..hypocracy. 1
FireChans Posted June 25, 2022 Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, nedboy7 said: You serious? What an argument. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), for one, allowed that a national abortion ban was “possible” after the initial leak of the Supreme Court’s draft decision. Last week, Sen. Bill Hagerty (R-Tenn.) he would back a federal ban because “any of us that believe this is wrong, it’s wrong, period.” House Republican leaders — including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, Republican Study Committee chair Jim Banks, and Judiciary ranking member Jim Jordan — are already lining up to support legislation that would impose a nationwide ban on abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy Republicans have also indicated that they plan to reintroduce the “Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act” if they recapture the House majority. That bill would put in place requirements for the care of infants born after failed, late-term abortions and could send doctors to prison if they fail to comply. Reproductive rights and physician groups have previously opposed the legislation on the basis that it could criminalize doctors and is duplicative of existing laws that already support infants in these very rare cases. You weirdos are even against contraception. That's next. What you think of the Supreme Court wanting to go after gay marriage next. I think that a federal ban on abortion or gay marriage would be unconstitutional. But thanks for playing.
Gene Frenkle Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 7 hours ago, FireChans said: Well that's an interesting compromise on your "absolute right to body autonomy" take. Do you mind elaborating? Coercion to violate body autonomy is okay, but not force? Is the line at criminal charges? "Get the vaccine or you're fired," is respectful to body autonomy? Your employer is not violating your bodily autonomy. If you want to selfishly not get vaccinated and instead benefit from the herd immunity granted by braver folks, nobody is making you do anything. But people who took that "risk" for the benefit of themselves and those around them... we are judging the hell out of you. No employer or anyone else in an at-will employment situation owes you anything. Just as you're free to smoke weed, but if your employer isn't cool with that, you run the risk of unemployment. These are not the same things. 6 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Disney has been accused of systemically underpaying employees, underpaying and undervaluing it’s female employees, and dodging property tax that would help the communities it serves. https://www.sfgate.com/disneyland/article/25-000-Disneyland-employees-are-suing-Disney-for-16355821.php https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/apr/03/disney-company-women-pay-gap-lawsuit https://www.cbsnews.com/news/does-disneys-luxembourg-tax-strategy-go-too-far/ I suppose one way to take the liberal heat off is selectively partner on watershed issues like this one. The math likely works in their favor in a big way. What about the child grooming?
Gene Frenkle Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Make sure you pray for the unemployed Planned Parenthood workers before bedtime, Pa.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said: Your employer is not violating your bodily autonomy. If you want to selfishly not get vaccinated and instead benefit from the herd immunity granted by braver folks, nobody is making you do anything. But people who took that "risk" for the benefit of themselves and those around them... we are judging the hell out of you. No employer or anyone else in an at-will employment situation owes you anything. Just as you're free to smoke weed, but if your employer isn't cool with that, you run the risk of unemployment. 🙄 1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said: These are not the same things. What about the child grooming? What kind of Mickey Mouse question is that, Frenkle?
FireChans Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said: Your employer is not violating your bodily autonomy. If you want to selfishly not get vaccinated and instead benefit from the herd immunity granted by braver folks, nobody is making you do anything. But people who took that "risk" for the benefit of themselves and those around them... we are judging the hell out of you. No employer or anyone else in an at-will employment situation owes you anything. Just as you're free to smoke weed, but if your employer isn't cool with that, you run the risk of unemployment. These are not the same things. What about the child grooming? Ok so just to be clear. If abortion was legal, but if your employer found out you had one and fired you, and then you weren’t allowed to get on an airplane, that’s okay? Abortion is legal, but I can ask them if they’ve had one and then not hire them on the basis of that fact and fire them if they lie? We may actually save the discourse with this discussion! Edited June 26, 2022 by FireChans
Andy1 Posted June 26, 2022 Posted June 26, 2022 I’m still wondering what the penalties will be for abortion or attempted abortion in states where it is outlawed and then, logically considered murder. In Texas, convicted murders get 5-99 years in prison and a fine of up to $10,000. Now since no God fearing republican wants to be seen as soft on crime, I would think that the poor girl or young woman (who is unable or cannot afford to travel to another state) convicted of getting an abortion would get at least 10 - 20 years in prison for committing murder of the embryo/fetus. Murder of embryo is equal to murder of a person. Are all you guys who support this ruling on board with this? This is where we are heading as a country. I’m sure the prison industry is celebrating.
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