T&C Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 I haven't been following these... watching it now... is this a one sided affair or is there rebuttal at any point?
BillsFanNC Posted June 28, 2022 Author Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, T&C said: I haven't been following these... watching it now... is this a one sided affair or is there rebuttal at any point? Take a wild guess.
ChiGoose Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Doc said: When do you suppose they're going to reveal that they have proof that Trump planned for people to enter the Capitol? Another month or so? That’s a good question. I haven’t been able to follow today’s hearing closely but they have testimony that he wanted the metal detectors removed from the capital. The point I was trying to make is that saying people should do something peacefully doesn’t negate all other actions taken to increase the likelihood of violence. People keep posting that quote like it’s a magic spell that prevents any culpability. All of that being said, the attack on the Capitol is not the only crime that they are looking into. Even if they find no link between Trump and the attackers, they have already exposed that he committed other crimes in the lead up to Jan 6th. 7 minutes ago, T&C said: I haven't been following these... watching it now... is this a one sided affair or is there rebuttal at any point? So far it’s just the people who will testify under oath. 1
ChiGoose Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Jan 6 distraction making sense now dupes Yes the entire Jan 6 investigation was to cover up the sentencing of Maxwell. You figured it out! Good job! You get a gold star! 1 1
Jauronimo Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Jan 6 distraction making sense now dupes 1
Big Blitz Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Perfectly timed (fake) new evidence! day Enjoy your birth certificate circle j...
716er Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Jan 6 distraction making sense now dupes 1
Doc Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: That’s a good question. I haven’t been able to follow today’s hearing closely but they have testimony that he wanted the metal detectors removed from the capital. The point I was trying to make is that saying people should do something peacefully doesn’t negate all other actions taken to increase the likelihood of violence. People keep posting that quote like it’s a magic spell that prevents any culpability. All of that being said, the attack on the Capitol is not the only crime that they are looking into. Even if they find no link between Trump and the attackers, they have already exposed that he committed other crimes in the lead up to Jan 6th. Yeah it’s a great question. Care to place a wager on if it ever comes out? But the shift to “other crimes” tells me what I need to know. And why I’m not high. And yes, I knew the point you were trying to make. Here’s the thing though: you admitted you planned on robbing the bank.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah it’s a great question. Care to place a wager on if it ever comes out? But the shift to “other crimes” tells me what I need to know. And why I’m not high. And yes, I knew the point you were trying to make. Here’s the thing though: you admitted you planned on robbing the bank. The seriousness of the allegation is where the magic happens. Remember, it's not that long ago that a ginned up allegation of collusion resulted in a ginned up allegation of obstruction and both lead to nothing. That nothing was something debated regardless of which side of the debate you were on. As everyone knows, something isn't nothing, usually, but if that something ends up actually being nothing, that's something altogether different. Our differences, Doc, binds us. I am surprised I have to tell you this.
ChiGoose Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, Doc said: Yeah it’s a great question. Care to place a wager on if it ever comes out? But the shift to “other crimes” tells me what I need to know. And why I’m not high. And yes, I knew the point you were trying to make. Here’s the thing though: you admitted you planned on robbing the bank. Looking into one potential crime and finding various other crimes is not a “shift”
Doc Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: The seriousness of the allegation is where the magic happens. Remember, it's not that long ago that a ginned up allegation of collusion resulted in a ginned up allegation of obstruction and both lead to nothing. That nothing was something debated regardless of which side of the debate you were on. As everyone knows, something isn't nothing, usually, but if that something ends up actually being nothing, that's something altogether different. Our differences, Doc, binds us. I am surprised I have to tell you this. Wow, that's...something. 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Looking into one potential crime and finding various other crimes is not a “shift” We shall see. And we'll see what comes of these other "crimes."
ChiGoose Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: We shall see. And we'll see what comes of these other "crimes." Agreed. I’m not overly optimistic about DoJ there.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Wow, that's...something. Welcome back from the brink, MD. We all get turned around sometimes.
BillStime Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DRsGhost said: Yes, you're a moron. The point, as I and others have maintained from the beginning, is outlined below. Are you truly as obtuse as @BillStime? It appears so.
BillsFanNC Posted June 28, 2022 Author Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: I planned to enter the Capitol with my buddies. And we went to the Capitol, and I said “go into the Capitol” and then they went in and I didn't. Therefore, I am not guilty of anything. Just like Ray Epps, right?
ChiGoose Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Just like Ray Epps, right? I must have missed his speech on the Ellipse.
BillsFanNC Posted June 28, 2022 Author Posted June 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I must have missed his speech on the Ellipse. Funny because I've heard Trumps speech at the ellipse and he asked/told exactly zero people to enter the Capitol. Ray Epps asked hundreds if not thousands of people over two days to enter the Capitol. But thats just fine....
ChiGoose Posted June 28, 2022 Posted June 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Funny because I've heard Trumps speech at the ellipse and he asked/told exactly zero people to enter the Capitol. Ray Epps asked hundreds if not thousands of people over two days to enter the Capitol. But thats just fine.... This guy? Quote Just two days after the attack, when Mr. Epps saw himself on a list of suspects from Jan. 6, he called an F.B.I. tip line and told investigators that he had tried to calm Mr. Samsel down when they spoke, according to three people who have heard a recording of the call. Mr. Epps went on to say that he explained to Mr. Samsel that the police outside the building were merely doing their jobs, the people said. Then in late January of last year, in an interview with the F.B.I., Mr. Samsel said much the same thing, telling investigators that a man he did not know came up to him at the barricades and suggested he relax, according to a recording of the interview obtained by The New York Times. “He came up to me and he said, ‘Dude’ — his entire words were, ‘Relax, the cops are doing their job,’” Mr. Samsel said. 1
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