Final Roster Predictions WRs

[Apocalypse Nuts]

Shakir above Austin, IMO though.  He has the chance to be this season's Gabriel Davis, IMO of course. OP has the right idea though I think.

[Draconator]

Diggs

Davis

Crowder

McKenzie

Shakir

Austin

Kumerow

 

I too am going with 7 WRs

[GunnerBill]

8 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I used to think this, until I gave it some further thought. Hodgins has been hurt and hasn’t done much. But why would McB keep him around if they thought he was marginal at best? They must see something in him and are just waiting for him to get healthy. By all accounts he has been flashing in OTAs. Hodgins and Austin’s stock has been up. 

 

I'm sure they do see something in him. But I always thought that about him going as far back as the draft. Redzone contributor maybe. Between the 20s? Forget it. Doesn't separate. 

[Dr.Sack]

I could see us keeping 7, only if Kumerow’s role on ST can’t be replaced. 
 

Locks

#1 - Diggs 

#2 - Davis 
#3 - Crowder - PR/KR

#4 - McKenzie - PR/KR

#5 - Shakir - PR

 

Borderline

#6 Stevenson - PR/KR/Slot/Outside

#7 Austin - PR/KR/Slot/Outside 

#8 Kumerow - Outside/ST

#9 Hodgins - Outside/ST

[Starr Almighty]

11 hours ago, atomicpwrd said:

Diggs

Davis

Crowder

Austin

Shakir

Kumerow

 

McKenzie gets traded.  We have a glut of slot WRs, and Cook can also serve in that capacity.  Shakir can play inside or outside.  Austin stretches the field and returns kicks.

 

Hodgins and Stevenson to the practice squad.

You traded away lil dirty and kept Austin. I love this idea, only issue I have with this is that Austin sucks. Other than that I'm all for it.

7 hours ago, Apocalypse Nuts said:

Shakir above Austin, IMO though.  He has the chance to be this season's Gabriel Davis, IMO of course. OP has the right idea though I think.

Anyone above Austin in any opinion

[BillsFanForever19]

21 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I used to think this, until I gave it some further thought. Hodgins has been hurt and hasn’t done much. But why would McB keep him around if they thought he was marginal at best? They must see something in him and are just waiting for him to get healthy. By all accounts he has been flashing in OTAs. Hodgins and Austin’s stock has been up. 

 

Being signed to a "Futures" deal, removed from last year on the Practice Squad, following being cut after Training Camp doesn't scream to me "McB" having some great faith in him and keeping him around because they see something exceptional in him.

 

Do you feel the same way about Tanner Gentry? They released him after Training Camp, brought him back to the Practice Squad, and retained him on a Futures deal just the same as Hodgins.

Edited June 16, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

You traded away lil dirty and kept Austin. I love this idea, only issue I have with this is that Austin sucks. Other than that I'm all for it.

Anyone above Austin in any opinion

 

If Austin sticks it is as a return specialist that barely gets on the field otherwise - a la Andre Roberts. That is the job he has a shot to win. He has no shot as an actual receiver IMO. If they keep Austin possible they keep 7 receivers, but only if one of them is Jake Kumerow, because if Kumerow doesn't make it Taiwan Jones does and they are not keeping 4 running backs, plus Gilliam as a FB and 7 receivers. I can see a world where Austin is the return guy, Kumerow loses out and they keep 6 and Jones sticks or a world where Austin is the return guy, Kumerow is their gunner opposite Neal and they only keep 3 pure running backs (Singletary, Cook and Moss).

[LeGOATski]

43 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If Austin sticks it is as a return specialist that barely gets on the field otherwise - a la Andre Roberts. That is the job he has a shot to win. He has no shot as an actual receiver IMO. If they keep Austin possible they keep 7 receivers, but only if one of them is Jake Kumerow, because if Kumerow doesn't make it Taiwan Jones does and they are not keeping 4 running backs, plus Gilliam as a FB and 7 receivers. I can see a world where Austin is the return guy, Kumerow loses out and they keep 6 and Jones sticks or a world where Austin is the return guy, Kumerow is their gunner opposite Neal and they only keep 3 pure running backs (Singletary, Cook and Moss).

Yup.

 

I've missed Andre "Return Man" Roberts, tbh...

[Starr Almighty]

8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If Austin sticks it is as a return specialist that barely gets on the field otherwise - a la Andre Roberts. That is the job he has a shot to win. He has no shot as an actual receiver IMO. If they keep Austin possible they keep 7 receivers, but only if one of them is Jake Kumerow, because if Kumerow doesn't make it Taiwan Jones does and they are not keeping 4 running backs, plus Gilliam as a FB and 7 receivers. I can see a world where Austin is the return guy, Kumerow loses out and they keep 6 and Jones sticks or a world where Austin is the return guy, Kumerow is their gunner opposite Neal and they only keep 3 pure running backs (Singletary, Cook and Moss).

I believe you are thinking of Tavon Austin 2013-2017  158 returns 1324 yards 8.4 return avg and 3 TDS. The guy I am referring to is Tavon Austin 2018-present  32 returns 159 yards 4.9 avg return 0 TDs. I won't bother getting into his #'s as a WR because they are just plain embarrassing. His high career yardage is 509 yards in a season and he's had a total of 597 yards in the last 5 years. This man isn't making this roster.

[GunnerBill]

23 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I believe you are thinking of Tavon Austin 2013-2017  158 returns 1324 yards 8.4 return avg and 3 TDS. The guy I am referring to is Tavon Austin 2018-present  32 returns 159 yards 4.9 avg return 0 TDs. I won't bother getting into his #'s as a WR because they are just plain embarrassing. His high career yardage is 509 yards in a season and he's had a total of 597 yards in the last 5 years. This man isn't making this roster.

 

So what we agree on:

 

1. Tavon Austin has no role to play here as a receiver;

2. He has not been a dynamic returner for a few years now. 

 

The reaon I disagree that he has no chance - the Bills have no returner. I like McKenzie and would leave him there and take the bad with the good but this staff has shied away from that. Stevenson is toast. He sucked last year and has had a brutal spring. So it is a wide open job that I don't think you need to be good to win. He wouldn't be in my 53 and I think he is an outsider to be on their 53 but he isn't without a chance. He is fighting in a wide open race. 

[YattaOkasan]

22 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I used to think this, until I gave it some further thought. Hodgins has been hurt and hasn’t done much. But why would McB keep him around if they thought he was marginal at best? They must see something in him and are just waiting for him to get healthy. By all accounts he has been flashing in OTAs. Hodgins and Austin’s stock has been up. 

they keep him around cause he costs nothing to keep.  he should flash in OTAs.  he doesnt handle the physical game well.  

21 hours ago, Rico said:

Diggs

Davis

McKenzie

Roster addition not on the team yet.

Kumerow

Shakir 

 

who are you signing with the small amount of money from cutting crowder?  You at least get 900k from cutting mckenzie.  i dont think either is going anywhere but at least we can get out of mckenzie's contract with some money back.  

[Rico]

Just now, YattaOkasan said:

they keep him around cause he costs nothing to keep.  he should flash in OTAs.  he doesnt handle the physical game well.  

who are you signing with the small amount of money from cutting crowder?  You at least get 900k from cutting mckenzie.  i dont think either is going anywhere but at least we can get out of mckenzie's contract with some money back.  

Don’t know right now, but it sure as hell won’t be another ex-Jet. 

[YattaOkasan]

Just now, Rico said:

Don’t know right now, but it sure as hell won’t be another ex-Jet. 

Based on financials crowder is pretty much a lock to me.

[Starr Almighty]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So what we agree on:

 

1. Tavon Austin has no role to play here as a receiver;

2. He has not been a dynamic returner for a few years now. 

 

The reaon I disagree that he has no chance - the Bills have no returner. I like McKenzie and would leave him there and take the bad with the good but this staff has shied away from that. Stevenson is toast. He sucked last year and has had a brutal spring. So it is a wide open job that I don't think you need to be good to win. He wouldn't be in my 53 and I think he is an outsider to be on their 53 but he isn't without a chance. He is fighting in a wide open race. 

Ok so we are pretty close in our thoughts. I do agree the return game needs to be upgraded. I just don't think Tavon is the answer to that need.

[BillsFanForever19]

22 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Ok so we are pretty close in our thoughts. I do agree the return game needs to be upgraded. I just don't think Tavon is the answer to that need.

 

That's fine that you feel that way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But unfortunately for you - the Bills brass doesn't feel the same way because that's who they chose to bring in and compete with Marquez Stevenson. 

 

Austin claims he's been unhealthy the past few years and finally feels 100% It could be lip service, but he has reportedly looked good in OTA's and has a lot of supporters in the WR room. And I really don't think he could be any worse than Stevenson looked last year.

 

Long story short - you may not be a fan. But he definitely has a better chance of sticking than you're giving him credit for.

[Starr Almighty]

42 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

That's fine that you feel that way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But unfortunately for you - the Bills brass doesn't feel the same way because that's who they chose to bring in and compete with Marquez Stevenson. 

 

Austin claims he's been unhealthy the past few years and finally feels 100% It could be lip service, but he has reportedly looked good in OTA's and has a lot of supporters in the WR room. And I really don't think he could be any worse than Stevenson looked last year.

 

Long story short - you may not be a fan. But he definitely has a better chance of sticking than you're giving him credit for.

I'll repost the stats that I posted above just in case you missed it. I want you to explain how anyone would think this guy is a good player.

 

Tavon Austin 2013-2017  158 returns 1324 yards 8.4 return avg and 3 TDS. The guy I am referring to is Tavon Austin 2018-present  32 returns 159 yards 4.9 avg return 0 TDs. I won't bother getting into his #'s as a WR because they are just plain embarrassing. His high career yardage is 509 yards in a season and he's had a total of 597 yards in the last 5 years.

 

 

[Milanos Milano]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So what we agree on:

 

1. Tavon Austin has no role to play here as a receiver;

2. He has not been a dynamic returner for a few years now. 

 

The reaon I disagree that he has no chance - the Bills have no returner. I like McKenzie and would leave him there and take the bad with the good but this staff has shied away from that. Stevenson is toast. He sucked last year and has had a brutal spring. So it is a wide open job that I don't think you need to be good to win. He wouldn't be in my 53 and I think he is an outsider to be on their 53 but he isn't without a chance. He is fighting in a wide open race. 

I don’t know how anyone could make this statement? Tavon Austin finally has 2 good QBs to work with (Allen and Keenum) and is 100% healthy. Austin has already caught 4 TDs in OTA/mini camp. He’s going to do it in real camp next month. I think Austin has enough talent and speed to become a serviceable WR here given who our QBs are. I absolutely would not be surprised to see a 600 yard season or more here this year. 

I personally think as a collective (Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Crowder, and Austin) will be used a lot. We will see flashes of Shakir, but he will be introduced in slowly and I’m not expecting much contribution from him. 

[Milanos Milano]

Both Crowder and Austin will prove to us this year, that they are both good WRs that have had a relatively disappointing career because of bad QB play and or nagging injuries. 

Edited June 16, 2022 by IronMaidenBills

[Milanos Milano]

This is where I see our receiving yards distribution this season. 

 

Diggs 1,300 

Davis  1,000 

Knox  700 

Crowder 700

McKenzie 700

Austin 600 

Cook 400 

 

I think this is where Allen elevates himself and comes close to Peyton’s record. 

Edited June 16, 2022 by IronMaidenBills

[Milanos Milano]

I think a 5,000 yard season is very doable.