LeviF Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 While the FBI combs through the hotel records of every Marriott property in the DMV, reviews thousands of hours of footage from every camera in DC, and parses through millions of credit card transactions to identify and locate every ####### who pissed in a Capitol urinal without permission so they can toss them in a DC jail for months so they can plead guilty to trespassing, we still mysteriously have zero leads on the guy who planted pipe bombs at the same location a day earlier. 20 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Don't forget assaulting police officers while waving a Blue Lives Matter flag. Feds aren't cops. 2
BillsFanNC Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Laughable thread from a laughable moron. "Parading in congress" and held in a DC jail on a friggin MISDEMEANOR. But insurrection or something, right? 3
Jauronimo Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 4 hours ago, snafu said: Most people who participated in 1/6 were trespassers. Many became rioters. The rioters were "influenced by people from outside the area”. I learned that phrase during the riots of 2020 that occurred all over the country. The same thing could be said for most any civil unrest. Ticket the trespassers. Charge and prosecute the rioters like any other rioters we’ve recently seen. Charge and prosecute the outside influencers. What’s difficult about this? Trespassing has a little more weight when you do it say at the White House or the Capitol building. And it definitely has more weight when said trespassing occurs during say a state of the union, or confirmation of an election, or inauguration. People can continue to draw equivalency with squatting on a post office in Portland to make their persecution point and they will continue to look like buffoons. Nothing bridges the political aisle faster than a group of dangerous morons threatening the security of those who hold power. This was not a local protest. All of the protesters were from out of the area as were the "outside influencers". Travel arrangements made, hotels booked. Its no mystery why it has been investigated more than locals burning down the corner store in Waukaluska, Wisconsin. The Buffalo region is actually one of the leaders in terms of arrests made stemming from Jan 6. Erie County is right behind Franklin County, Ohio. Florida and Texas lead the way in arrests. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/news/2021/06/17/erie-county-ranks-second-in-u-s--for-january-6-capitol-riot-arrests 1
ChiGoose Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 4 hours ago, LeviF said: Feds aren't cops. The Capitol Police are not police?
LeviF Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The Capitol Police are not police? I said what I said.
snafu Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Trespassing has a little more weight when you do it say at the White House or the Capitol building. And it definitely has more weight when said trespassing occurs during say a state of the union, or confirmation of an election, or inauguration. People can continue to draw equivalency with squatting on a post office in Portland to make their persecution point and they will continue to look like buffoons. Nothing bridges the political aisle faster than a group of dangerous morons threatening the security of those who hold power. This was not a local protest. All of the protesters were from out of the area as were the "outside influencers". Travel arrangements made, hotels booked. Its no mystery why it has been investigated more than locals burning down the corner store in Waukaluska, Wisconsin. The Buffalo region is actually one of the leaders in terms of arrests made stemming from Jan 6. Erie County is right behind Franklin County, Ohio. Florida and Texas lead the way in arrests. https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/news/2021/06/17/erie-county-ranks-second-in-u-s--for-january-6-capitol-riot-arrests Trespassing laws don't have "carry more weight" clauses. The extra weight is seen in enforcement -- the fact that people WERE tracked down and charged from all over the country if they committed a crime. The extra weight is seen in comparison to those who've recently rioted in other places, yet were unlikely to have been charged with the same trespassing crime. Note Seattle's CHOP arrests and releases. https://komonews.com/news/operation-crime-justice/seattle-polices-chop-sweep-brought-arrests-but-quick-release-from-jail-as-well . A police Station was commandeered for days and there was violence, assaults on Police, and death. This isn't meant to be whatboutery. This is an example of where "carry more weight" is enforced for the same basic offenses. If people were disrupting or disturbing a public meeting, then I'm sure there are laws on the books to charge people. If people assaulted someone, there's a good chance they'd be charged for assault. Same goes for destroying property, or assaulting a police officer, or sedition. I'm not making any equivalencies, and I'm not defending anyone's illegal actions. I just see that too many people want to throw every single participant into the same basket of sedition. Fortunately, the law doesn't work that way. Here is a decent summary of those charged from the events that day, and for what. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-capitol-riot-arrests-latest/ Edited June 8, 2022 by snafu 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) On 6/7/2022 at 3:22 PM, Jauronimo said: What I am saying could not be more clear. Trying to change the outcome of a presidential election is different than burning gas stations and stealing Nikes. Are you really arguing they're equivalent acts? I don't even know what your point is since we have already established that a good number of arrests from the 2020 Summer riots and protests were prosecuted and convictions resulted. Exactly. What the House Committee is trying to do tonight - and with mixed results so far - is to refocus public attention on what really happened. The "insurrection" wasn't just the storming of the Capitol in an attempt to shut down the formal counting of electoral votes. It was the scheme - a cynical scheme, thought up by cynical, unethical lawyers and consultants like John Eastman - to subvert the process by: (1) stirring up a mob - a mob chanting things like "hang Mike Pence!" - to intimidate the Senate (including Pence in his role presiding over the Senate) from completing their largely symbolic/formal duties (2) intimidating Pence into "rejecting" electoral slates from pivotal states, and encouraging Trumpists in charge of those state governments to appoint phony/pro-Trump slates, and, (3) thereby stealing the election by counting fake electoral votes. Let's not lose sight of that. The mob were a tactic of a planned insurrection (or coup if you like), not the insurrection in and of itself. Edited June 10, 2022 by The Frankish Reich
Warcodered Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Omg hahahaha Apparently, Mark Ruffalo struck a nerve.
The Frankish Reich Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 6:59 AM, LeviF said: Feds aren't cops. Well, what a clever retort! Blue Lives Matter, but the Border Patrol Agent who killed the Uvalde shooter was wearing his green uniform! So you'll have to think about whether his/her life matters for a bit.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, what a clever retort! Blue Lives Matter, but the Border Patrol Agent who killed the Uvalde shooter was wearing his green uniform! So you'll have to think about whether his/her life matters for a bit. It would be nice if this was always the standard, huh?
LeviF Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Well, what a clever retort! Blue Lives Matter, but the Border Patrol Agent who killed the Uvalde shooter was wearing his green uniform! So you'll have to think about whether his/her life matters for a bit. No I don’t. Feds aren’t cops. This isn’t a difficult concept.
The Frankish Reich Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, LeviF said: No I don’t. Feds aren’t cops. This isn’t a difficult concept. What, like 18 U.S.C. sec. 101 defines "cop?" "Cop" is a colloquialism. It has no set meaning. It has the meaning people ascribe to it. Feds are, in fact, Law Enforcement Officers. And yes, most people in DC wouldn't hesitate for a moment before referring to the Capitol Police as "cops" if they were pulled over by them in their area of jurisdiction. This is the silliness our insurrection defenders now engage in. Semantic games.
LeviF Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: What, like 18 U.S.C. sec. 101 defines "cop?" "Cop" is a colloquialism. It has no set meaning. It has the meaning people ascribe to it. Feds are, in fact, Law Enforcement Officers. And yes, most people in DC wouldn't hesitate for a moment before referring to the Capitol Police as "cops" if they were pulled over by them in their area of jurisdiction. This is the silliness our insurrection defenders now engage in. Semantic games. I haven’t defended anything. But feds aren’t cops. Not sure why I’m supposed to care about what the vibrant community of the district has to say about it.
BillStime Posted June 24, 2022 Posted June 24, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 5:04 PM, Big Blitz said: The 2020 insurrection was real. This was a mass trespassing event. Unless coups usually look like this: The actual insurrection: You decide who the bigger threat to your Banana Republic is. 👆🤡 idiots cc: @Doc - aka QDoc
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