Tua impressing in Miami

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, DanInUticaTampa said:

 

White wont be playing next week.

 

Our CBs will get a lot of help from our safeties and linebackers, and hopefully a strong pass rush

 

It's a terrible matchup even with white which was my point.

 

Dane Jackson and 2 rookies against Hill/Waddle = not a good thing trust me. If the Bills win it will be one of those 42-40 type of scores.

[GunnerBill]

30 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

He did, but Baltimore's defensive play did even more. Just brutal. One of the worst halves of defensive back play you'll ever see. McD and Frazier would be vomiting for hours after the game if they had that happen to them with how they coach up DBs.

 

I think you can safely assume Frazier and McDermott won't be running much cover 0.

[TBBills]

8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Told ya'all this was going to happen.

 

Game managers and fringe starters don't put up 6 TD's (something JA17 has never done) and nearly 500 yards. Congrats to Tua for taking the year 3 leap like Allen did.

 

Bigger question is how on earth is the Bills secondary going to have any chance against slowing down Waddle/Hill next week? Even with White healthy and in the lineup it's a bad proposition.

You didn't tell us Tua would be average, we told you he would be.

2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

It's a terrible matchup even with white which was my point.

 

Dane Jackson and 2 rookies against Hill/Waddle = not a good thing trust me. If the Bills win it will be one of those 42-40 type of scores.

Yea the Bills shouldn't have a problem putting up 40-42 but Tua definitely won't be able to do that

 

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, TBBills said:

You didn't tell us Tua would be average, we told you he would be.

Yea the Bills shouldn't have a problem putting up 40-42 but Tua definitely won't be able to do that

 

 

Um did you not watch what Tua just did on the road against a SB contender? What makes you think the Bills defense is better than the Ravens especially with 2 rookie DB's and Dane Jackson in the secondary?

[DanInUticaTampa]

Just now, FilthyBeast said:

 

It's a terrible matchup even with white which was my point.

 

Dane Jackson and 2 rookies against Hill/Waddle = not a good thing trust me. If the Bills win it will be one of those 42-40 type of scores.

 

Dane Jackson is good. Even with the CBs being a weak link on our defense, they aren't going to be covering waddle and hill 1 on 1. Poyer and Hyde are going to cover them as well. They are going to double hill and waddle and then they will probably single cover gesicki, who is probably the one we should worry more about. 

 

Miami has a weak oline and with our strong dline, we should be able to out pressure on tua forcing his throws off time.

 

This is a team sport. it isn't like our CBs are going to be single covering these guys by themselvers. They will have a lot of help from the safeties and a lot of help from the pass rush. And probably a lot of help from Milano and Edmunds who are also good in coverage. And the strong pass rush is another bonus. You are giving miami too much credit for only 2 quarters of good football against a bad defense.

[TBBills]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Um did you not watch what Tua just did on the road against a SB contender? What makes you think the Bills defense is better than the Ravens especially with 2 rookie DB's and Dane Jackson in the secondary?

I watched the game, he didn't play that well at all. Ravens aren't a SB contender... they didn't even make the playoffs last year. 

 

That Miami defense looks horrible how they supposed to keep Josh under his normal 40 points he puts up on them?

Edited September 18, 2022 by TBBills

[What a Tuel]

The told you so! I wouldve thought he would wait for more than one game that was a clear defensive failure by the ravens to say it though. 😂

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think you can safely assume Frazier and McDermott won't be running much cover 0.

 

It's almost like the Ravens just checked out at the half on D thinking the game was over and then they couldn't get their minds back in the game.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Told ya'all this was going to happen.

 

Game managers and fringe starters don't put up 6 TD's (something JA17 has never done) and nearly 500 yards. Congrats to Tua for taking the year 3 leap like Allen did.

 

Bigger question is how on earth is the Bills secondary going to have any chance against slowing down Waddle/Hill next week? Even with White healthy and in the lineup it's a bad proposition.

Tua is not in the same League as Allen. I may question weather or not these first 2 weeks have been flukes (very well may have been), but his limitations put his best case scenario at about Alex Smith. 
 

Allen’s best case scenario is basically Godzilla. Like pissed off full nuke Godzilla. 

[What a Tuel]

2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Um did you not watch what Tua just did on the road against a SB contender? What makes you think the Bills defense is better than the Ravens especially with 2 rookie DB's and Dane Jackson in the secondary?

 

We watched the whole game, including the part where Tua threw 2 picks and went down 21 pts.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

It's almost like the Ravens just checked out at the half on D thinking the game was over and then they couldn't get their minds back in the game.

 

I think it was more the Dolphins saw the way they were playing and so rather than all the quick hit and lateral game they called for Hill and Waddle first half they said "if they are gonna go 1v1 then let's go right at the corners down the field."

 

And the Ravens DBs were outmatched and put in a position to fail.

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Um did you not watch what Tua just did on the road against a SB contender? What makes you think the Bills defense is better than the Ravens especially with 2 rookie DB's and Dane Jackson in the secondary?

What makes you think they’re not?  

[FilthyBeast]

4 minutes ago, TBBills said:

I watched the game, he didn't play that well at all. Ravens aren't a SB contender... they didn't even make the playoffs last year. 

 

That Miami defense looks horrible how they supposed to keep Josh under his normal 40 points he puts up on them?

 

Ravens are certainly a legit SB contender and it's not wise to minimize what happened today IMO.

 

We barely beat Miami last year in the 2nd game and their defense was a big part of that.

 

Going to be a lot of pressure now on the Bills tomorrow night to keep pace against a team that has had their number and need to think about that first.

[Freak-O]

Can we please also remember week 1 and the awful game between Miami and the Pats? 

[CaliBills]

This is what happens when you play Man vs speedy WR's and playing Zone vs Speedy WR's.

Ravens game plan in the second half should have been more zone and help with waddle/hill. 

[Big Turk]

9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Um did you not watch what Tua just did on the road against a SB contender? What makes you think the Bills defense is better than the Ravens especially with 2 rookie DB's and Dane Jackson in the secondary?

 

Who said the Ravens are a SB contender? Did you watch the Bills performance last week against the SB Champs?

 

Do you think the Bills are going to have blown coverages for an entire half with 2 all pro safeties back there?

[PrimeTime101]

8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Um did you not watch what Tua just did on the road against a SB contender? What makes you think the Bills defense is better than the Ravens especially with 2 rookie DB's and Dane Jackson in the secondary?

SB contender? what are you smoking? just cause odds have them in 4th does not make them a true "contender"

 

Ravens defense was horrible... expect those odds to get a ton worse for the Ravens. 

[TBBills]

Just now, FilthyBeast said:

 

Ravens are certainly a legit SB contender and it's not wise to minimize what happened today IMO.

 

We barely beat Miami last year in the 2nd game and their defense was a big part of that.

 

Going to be a lot of pressure now on the Bills tomorrow night to keep pace against a team that has had their number and need to think about that first.

Miami cannot even stop Lamar, they have no chance at stopping Josh. 

 

Bills have a proven history at stopping Tua.

[boater]

Just now, FilthyBeast said:

 

Ravens are certainly a legit SB contender and it's not wise to minimize what happened today IMO.

 

We barely beat Miami last year in the 2nd game and their defense was a big part of that.

 

Going to be a lot of pressure now on the Bills tomorrow night to keep pace against a team that has had their number and need to think about that first.

Aren't you abusing the word "we" since you're a Dolphins troll.

[jimmy10]

Esiason just said Tua has “arrived among the top QBs in the league.” 😂 Almost enough to make one think the shield wants to distract from the Fish tampering to pick up Brady in the offseason.