newcam2012 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I think he's hit his peak. He has nothing more to offer. He can put at the work in he wants but it's not gonna make him even 1% better. Hit his peak? Really? I don't think this is the case because he's still learning the NaFL game and pace. He hasn't played that much due to injuries and other coaching decisions. He can definelty grow and get better. However, I don't think he will wvwr be elite or a franchise QB. He can be a better version of Goeff or Jimmy G. Both of them went to the super bowl. Quote
HappyDays Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said: Seems sacrilegious to say this on TBD but while he is a limited quarterback in some ways he also does tend to hit his targets in game situations. I think he could be as good as Dak or Kirk Cousins and they have won their fair share of games. Will he be a top tier QB .. nope, but very likely a 2nd tier, if he continues to put in the work. The way I look at it is that his absolute ceiling is Kirk Cousins and he's currently not anywhere near his ceiling. His optimistic upside is Jimmy Garrappolo. Currently he's a physically limited one-read QB which is barely even backup level. 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: Hit his peak? Really? I don't think this is the case because he's still learning the NaFL game and pace. He hasn't played that much due to injuries and other coaching decisions. He can definelty grow and get better. However, I don't think he will wvwr be elite or a franchise QB. He can be a better version of Goeff or Jimmy G. Both of them went to the super bowl. ok. Hit his peak is a little harsh. I just don't see him overcoming his limitations (height, pocket awareness, arm strength). I'm sure he can improve on things but think he is always going to be limited and not get much further than a good backup QB. 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 I can't wait until Tua sees the contracts that his fellow class of 20 QBs Burrow & Herbert get and demands the Dolphins match those for him. 😄 3 Quote
Big Turk Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua. I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work. The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them. If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed. Edited September 15, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua. I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work. The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them. If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed. I was more impressed with Geno. And he only threw 195 yards. Edited September 15, 2022 by The Wiz 1 Quote
Niagara Bill Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I think he's hit his peak. He has nothing more to offer. He can put at the work in he wants but it's not gonna make him even 1% better. He is at least a Michael Vick, who was never really great except in the press. I always find it amusing how some spend their time saying how much TTa is better than you think when entering the NFL and also how poor Josh will be. Hmmmm Quote
syhuang Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 One looks quite different to the other 😎 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: So that’s why Tua always suck against us…because he ANTICIPATES getting his assed kicked by us very well 😎 2 Quote
billsfan1959 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua. I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work. The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them. If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed. I watched the game and I have to agree. His biggest gains of the day were: (1) the 42 yd TD by Waddle. This was a good throw and Tua's strength - a 10 yd pass over the middle and he hit Waddle in stride. Waddle did the rest (aided by bad angles by two NE defenders), (2) a 26 Yd pass to Hill that was floated 20 yds and caught by the defensive back. Hill literally took it away from the DB, (3) a 23 yd pass to Hill. The throw was 19 yds, Hill didn't have a defender within 5 yds of him and the thow felt like it took forever to get there, literally just slightly less time in the air than Allen's 55 yd thow to Diggs (4) an 18 yard pass to Hill where the throw was to the LOS, (5) a 16 yd pass to Mostert that was a throw to the LOS, (6) a 15 yard pass to Edmonds that was thrown 1 yd beyond the LOS. Inside the New England 40, he was 2-4 for 9 yds, two sacks, one fumble, one dropped interception, and no touchdowns. Every attempt over 15 yds seemed to be a struggle. 1 Quote
Fleezoid Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Draconator said: Impressive comments After they play the Bills, his comments will be revised slightly; "If you can't see me, it's because all I see is Miller, Phillips, Basham and some guy named Rousseau." "If I can't see you, it's because all I see is sky." 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: I am not sure watching the Patriot game last week if I have ever seen a player put up decent numbers in a game but be less impressed than I was with Tua. I mean literally there was nothing he did that was really impressive. Maybe the throw to Waddle for the TD on 4th down but Waddle did all the work. The offense scored 13 points and he made a number of mind numbing decisions in the game and bad throws that luckily didn't cost them. If they are impressed with him, they are simply very easily impressed. I think the Miami fans have false hope. It's something Bills fans did with many past Qbs. 1 Quote
CapeBreton Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: I can't wait until Tua sees the contracts that his fellow class of 20 QBs Burrow & Herbert get and demands the Dolphins match those for him. 😄 I really hope he earns that second contract and is there for a long time, they'll be mediocre as long as Tua is around. Quote
TBBills Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, CorkScrewHill said: Seems sacrilegious to say this on TBD but while he is a limited quarterback in some ways he also does tend to hit his targets in game situations. I think he could be as good as Dak or Kirk Cousins and they have won their fair share of games. Will he be a top tier QB .. nope, but very likely a 2nd tier, if he continues to put in the work. You should have watched the game then. 3 hours ago, Draconator said: Impressive comments Wow that is horrible... 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: So Chad Pennington??? That sucks... hahahahaha Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 https://www.yahoo.com/news/dave-hyde-ryan-fitzpatrick-sean-124900934.html Dave Hyde: Ryan Fitzpatrick calls Tua ‘limited’; Sean Payton’s view is worse Quote
Big Turk Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) Definitely channeling his inner JP Losman at press conferences...I was waiting for a Yoda reference. Edited September 15, 2022 by Big Turk 5 Quote
Don Otreply Posted September 15, 2022 Posted September 15, 2022 15 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Definitely channeling his inner JP Losman at press conferences...I was waiting for a Yoda reference. Maybe they can get him a booster seat or something…, 1 Quote
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