Deshaun Watson admits under oath that Ashley Solis cried at the end of the massage

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2022/05/24/deshaun-watson-new-details-accusers-hbo-interview-transcript/9911578002/

 

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“Well, in every massage, I will tell you he did go, intending just for a professional massage, and only those three instances where sexual conduct occurred – consensual sexual activity – it occurred after the massage session had ended,” Graham replied, according to the excerpts. “And Mr. Watson has testified and is insistent that that sexual activity was initiated by the plaintiff in every single instance.”

 

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Solis alleged that Watson caused his penis to touch her hand near the end of the massage. Her lawsuit said this caused her to be scared and cry.

 

Really can't help that her story seems to line up so well with his story on how the consensual encounters happened.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, BarleyNY said:

Specifically he was asked why he sent a text apologizing to her.  

If reports are to be believed 13 teams - to some extent at least - tried to trade for Watson. 

 

 

That's what I said.  

[BillsShredder83]

Anybody know what time its on? Wont be watching but interrested to read HOW bad this sounds after it airs

[YoloinOhio]

9 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Anybody know what time its on? Wont be watching but interrested to read HOW bad this sounds after it airs

10pm ET

[YoloinOhio]

 

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[Saxum]

Orange is his color but should be shade of orange wore in some prisons.

[BillsShredder83]

31 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

this is gunna be 10 outta 10 bad just off that 60 second clip... starting to come around to enough pressure that he might never play

[HappyDays]

Yikes I just watched the full interview with Ashley Solis. Either she is secretly the greatest actress of our time or Watson is a predator.

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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Yikes I just watched the full interview with Ashley Solis. Either she is secretly the greatest actress of our time or Watson is a predator.

It sounds like exactly what the whole thing sounded like from the beginning, that Watson was going out trying have a real life Porno experience, it just so happens that those tend to be written in a way that ignores how criminal the behavior in them often is.

[YoloinOhio]

That female lawyer of watson’s came off very poorly. I don’t think she believed what she was trying to sell and it was cringe. 

[wppete]

14 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Yikes I just watched the full interview with Ashley Solis. Either she is secretly the greatest actress of our time or Watson is a predator.

I missed it. Can you be more specific let us know what she said? 

[HappyDays]

13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

That female lawyer of watson’s came off very poorly. I don’t think she believed what she was trying to sell and it was cringe. 

 

To be fair Tony Buzbee also comes across poorly in every interview I've seen of him. I have no doubt he is using this case to boost his public image. But that doesn't take away from the women's testimony.

 

6 minutes ago, wppete said:

I missed it. Can you be more specific let us know what she said? 

 

The exact details aren't appropriate for this forum. It's not so much what she said but how she appeared as she said it. Clearly the experience had a traumatic effect on her. I get that her singular testimony of the experience doesn't meet the criminal standard, maybe not even the civil standard, but I can't imagine anyone watching her interview and think she isn't telling the truth.

Edited May 25, 2022 by HappyDays

[BillsShredder83]

i wish more had agreed to interview. I believed Solis, but am having a hard time with the 2nd woman interviewed. He ejac'd from bumping his member into her hand a bunch of times? A bit of a red flag to me. If he was bumping it against her hand, thats still wrong-doing, but he ejac'g from that? With no other explanation?

 

At the least she exaggerated that claim, and if she did that, when the first part was enough to get the job done, how credible is the rest of her story?

 

It certainly wasnt a positive piece, but I dont think its anywhere near the bomb-shell that many were expecting.

Edited May 25, 2022 by BillsShredder83

[HappyDays]

Just now, BillsShredder83 said:

i wish more had agreed to interview. I believed Solis, but am having a hard time with the 2nd woman interviewed. He ***** from bumping his member into her hand a bunch of times? A bit of a red flag to me. If he was bumping it against her hand, thats still wrong-doing, but he ***** from that? With no other explanation?

 

At the least she exaggerated that claim, and if she did that, when the first part was enough to get the job done, how credible is the rest of her story?

 

It certainly wasnt a positive piece, but I dont think its anywhere near the bomb-shell that many were expecting.

 

Ashley Solis has been the strongest plaintiff by far. I have no doubt that Watson acted like she says he did and find it very likely that he did the same to other women. And I'm sure some of what Watson's legal team has said is also true - some of the women probably did see his behavior as a possible cash grab or a way to develop a relationship with a multimillionaire superstar athlete. But that argument doesn't take away from what he did. Sexual assault that leads to consensual sex is still sexual assault. And in at least some cases it was nothing more than a traumatic experience for the women. We'll never know the whole unvarnished truth but I hope the NFL has seen enough to bring down the hammer on him.

[BillsShredder83]

6 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Ashley Solis has been the strongest plaintiff by far. I have no doubt that Watson acted like she says he did and find it very likely that he did the same to other women. And I'm sure some of what Watson's legal team has said is also true - some of the women probably did see his behavior as a possible cash grab or a way to develop a relationship with a multimillionaire superstar athlete. But that argument doesn't take away from what he did. Sexual assault that leads to consensual sex is still sexual assault. And in at least some cases it was nothing more than a traumatic experience for the women. We'll never know the whole unvarnished truth but I hope the NFL has seen enough to bring down the hammer on him.

i dont know that that interview did anything to help plaintiffs, if anything i think the opposite, and just my feeling/opinion. its a bit of a red flag that only 2 of 22 agreed to do it. also, while definitely sexual assault, those hardly painted him as ugly as the rest of the accusations. bumping himself into them is completely uncalled for, but far different than him over-powering them or any of the other more violent accusations. i can def understand these still being traumatic and even scary at what he might do, but Im not seeing a 1 year suspension, let alone a 2yr coming down.

 

if they really want to maximize his suspension, more info is going to need to come out IMO

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26 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

i wish more had agreed to interview. I believed Solis, but am having a hard time with the 2nd woman interviewed. He ***** from bumping his member into her hand a bunch of times? A bit of a red flag to me. If he was bumping it against her hand, thats still wrong-doing, but he ***** from that? With no other explanation?

 

At the least she exaggerated that claim, and if she did that, when the first part was enough to get the job done, how credible is the rest of her story?

 

It certainly wasnt a positive piece, but I dont think its anywhere near the bomb-shell that many were expecting.

I'd say a major part of it was the situation helping him along.

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I'd say a major part of it was the situation helping him along.

 

Yea he definitely appears to have some sort of exhibition kink going on. Simply the fact of being naked in what on the face of it does not seem a sexual situation in front of these women arouses him. And he seeks that out for his own sexual arousal and gratification. He gets off on his own exposure and their embarrassment at the situation. 

 

Completely believable to me that in the situation he could ***** (a word I never expected to write on this forum) from minimal physical contact. 

 

[Saint Doug]

22 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

The thing is though, this isn't true.  They did the exact same thing will all of their big contracts recently.  Garrett, Ward, Chubb, restructured Cooper.  It looks bad, but you can't ignore that they did it with everyone, not just Watson.

I am fine with manipulating salaries with the intent to work within the confines of the salary cap, which is what they did with the players above. But, there’s no precedent for giving a starting QB vet minimum to minimize salary cap implications. This was done solely to subvert any punishment coming from the NFL.
 

If I were Goodell, I would refrain from announcing any disciplinary measures until all civil suits are settled. This would probably mean either Watson starts paying out to settle them quickly or he let’s them go to court over the next year. Once the dust settles, Goodell can then suspend him for the 2023 season. That would send a much better message.