Tiberius Posted May 13, 2022 Author Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, TSOL said: You seem to be salivating at the thought of keeping that war going. Maybe Putin and you ain't so different, with your murderous fantasy's. You seem to be good with paying for weapons that are gonna be killing a whole lot of people. As long as you aren't pulling the trigger though, you're good, right? Yup, I'm in favor of allowing a nation to defend themselves, guilty as charged. You very much seem to want the Ukrainians murdered. Horrible
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yup, I'm in favor of allowing a nation to defend themselves, guilty as charged. You very much seem to want the Ukrainians murdered. Horrible I'm happy you're fine with the current situation where a homicidal maniac and an old guy with a mind a couple cans short of a 6 pack are playing chicken and pointing 1,000s of nuclear warheads at each other while using the people and country of Ukraine as a punching bag.
TSOL Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yup, I'm in favor of allowing a nation to defend themselves, guilty as charged. You very much seem to want the Ukrainians murdered. Horrible I want peace, I want the 40 billion to go towards peace, not destruction. Negotiations, talking, maybe a good lunch to sit down and talk things over with. Not missiles! And bombs, and killer drones Jeez what kind of animal are you to support such a thing 1
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2022 Author Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, TSOL said: I want peace, I want the 40 billion to go towards peace, not destruction. Negotiations, talking, maybe a good lunch to sit down and talk things over with. Not missiles! And bombs, and killer drones Jeez what kind of animal are you to support such a thing So just let the murderous Putin win. Great idea...if you are an ####### a hole
TSOL Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Tiberius said: So just let the murderous Putin win. Great idea...if you are an ####### You can't deny my point, I know you see my reasoning no matter how much you try to deflect
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 33 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Yup, I'm in favor of allowing a nation to defend themselves, guilty as charged. You very much seem to want the Ukrainians murdered. Horrible 2
TSOL Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Trump had rapport with Putin, Trump would be in contact and maybe even negotiations with Putin. Biden had not even made any attempt at all to negotiate this situation, Biden administration is perpetuating this war and escalating it. 1
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2022 Author Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, TSOL said: You can't deny my point, I know you see my reasoning no matter how much you try to deflect Your reasoning is that we just give up and let Putin win. Screw that. 1 minute ago, TSOL said: Trump had rapport with Putin, Trump would be in contact and maybe even negotiations with Putin. Biden had not even made any attempt at all to negotiate this situation, Biden administration is perpetuating this war and escalating it. HA HA HA!! Trump would be sending Putin weapons if he could 4 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Well, we are sending it. You lose
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Your reasoning is that we just give up and let Putin win. Screw that. HA HA HA!! Trump would be sending Putin weapons if he could Well, we are sending it. You lose Two things can be true. You can support supplying Ukraine and at the same time want proof exactly where all this coin is going. You don't have to be one or the other. 2
TSOL Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Your reasoning is that we just give up and let Putin win. Screw that. HA HA HA!! Trump would be sending Putin weapons if he could Well, we are sending it. You lose I know it's hard for you to understand how real men operate. Friends close, enemy's closer biotch
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2022 Author Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, TSOL said: I know it's hard for you to understand how real men operate. Friends close, enemy's closer biotch Real men? Who? You? 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Two things can be true. You can support supplying Ukraine and at the same time want proof exactly where all this coin is going. You don't have to be one or the other. Emergency situation here, send the money, we already know it's being used to kill Ivan
TSOL Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Real men? Who? You? Emergency situation here, send the money, we already know it's being used to kill Ivan Russia is already getting their asses handed to them anyways , this bill is just a marketplace for the industrial military complex to unload some of last year's hardware. But sure get your panties all in a wad over not going another 40 bil in debt there Karen
aristocrat Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Real men? Who? You? Emergency situation here, send the money, we already know it's being used to kill Ivan So then they should have no problem with the oversight right? If it's all on the up and up(which in wartime it never is) there is no problem. You ever know anyone who served in iraq or afhganistan and talk about the pallets of cash being delivered and wonder what the hell it's all for?
Tiberius Posted May 13, 2022 Author Posted May 13, 2022 Good, peace through strength, not MAGA imposed weakness Quote Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoygu and his US counterpart Lloyd Austin have spoken for the first time since 18 February - before Russia invaded Ukraine. According to a statement issued by the Pentagon, Austin urged an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and used the call to emphasise the importance of maintaining lines of communication. On Wednesday, Austin held talks with UK Defence Minister Ben Wallace. In a statement, Wallace said the two leaders pledged "to continue to work with unity and resolve to provide Ukraine with what it needs to defend itself against Russia’s unprovoked invasion". https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61404062
Warcodered Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I expected this hand waiving to be about him blocking the aid because Ukraine is not our problem, but even the CNN article said it’s very time consuming to make sure someone is accountable for the spending? WTF is wrong with these people? Why isn’t that a hard requirement of any new spending bill???? There was a way to have a vote on that specific change without slowing it down, he chose to slow it down.
B-Man Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: There was a way to have a vote on that specific change without slowing it down, he chose to slow it down. No. Schumer and McConnell were not having "another way" Sen. Paul did what he could to bring the flaws of this bill to the taxpayers attention
Warcodered Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: No. Schumer and McConnell were not having "another way" Sen. Paul did what he could to bring the flaws of this bill to the taxpayers attention https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/05/13/rand-paul-ukraine-aid-mcconnell-russia/9762529002/ Quote They were willing to let senators vote separately on Paul's proposed amendment, which would have needed 60 votes to pass, rather than add it directly into the aid package before senators vote to approve it. That wasn't good enough for Paul.
SoCal Deek Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 We’re honestly having a debate about whether it makes fiscal sense to borrow $40 BILLION from China to fight a proxy war in Ukraine? Can’t someone just call up China and ask THEM to buy the missiles? It’d save the mark up and interest payments. Unbelievable stupidity! 1
Coffeesforclosers Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 Rand sure knows how to virtue signal. Or maybe he's raising awareness? I can't decide.
All_Pro_Bills Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: We’re honestly having a debate about whether it makes fiscal sense to borrow $40 BILLION from China to fight a proxy war in Ukraine? Can’t someone just call up China and ask THEM to buy the missiles? It’d save the mark up and interest payments. Unbelievable stupidity! Opposing war is unpatriotic. This message brought to you by the defense industry. 2 hours ago, B-Man said: No. Schumer and McConnell were not having "another way" Sen. Paul did what he could to bring the flaws of this bill to the taxpayers attention Schummer and McConnell put on a good show of pretending there's some discourse or difference between the leadership of the two parties but their unwavering duty to any and all wars and massive spending reveals they all answer to the same powers. As I see more and more of these senseless wars over my lifetime I've come around to the conclusion that just because the leaders of my country have a gripe with the leaders of some other country doesn't mean me and people like me in these other countries need to kill each other. I've got no gripe with anybody. I expect they feel the same. How about this. Maybe let the leaders kill each other and leave the rest of us out of it? And save the $40 billion! 2 1 1
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