JMM Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 2:09 PM, Dan Darragh said: Bring back Bobby Chandler! Expand Boy are you aging yourself, but I agree! 🙂 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 1:42 PM, Offside Number 76 said: I'm a big fan of using the backup QB to hold for kicks. It opens up all sorts of possibilities. Expand Yes, but as pointed out, the most important thing is correctly hold on FG kicks. This suffers when another guy is used. Practice time goes down a lot. There's a reason every team in the league does this. Quote
TuelTime Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 At the end of this season when Araiza has 0 punt attempts and Bass has 100% FG percentage, can we change his nickname to "Holding Deity"? 1 1 Quote
Desert Bills Fan Posted May 9, 2022 Author Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 9:22 PM, BillsShredder83 said: CAN WE ALL TAKE A SECOND AND PAUSE... SERIOUSLY. STOP WHAT YOURE DOING AND LET THIS STEEP. Our current biggest hole on the roster, is the FG Holder 😆😆 This is like hearing Paris Hilton complaining that she had to drink a Dasani once lol glorious magnificence Expand Ease up dude…not saying it is the biggest hole. Do you really want just another thread on CB’s, Interior linemen or Edmunds? Thought this was an interesting conversation. If you’re not interested - just keep scrolling… 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 10:09 PM, Desert Bills Fan said: Do you really want just another thread on CB’s, Interior linemen or Edmunds? Expand Well, it has been a while. 1 Quote
pennstate10 Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 6:45 PM, freddyjj said: As mentioned here and in other posts on this topic, there are likely no position players who have any experience as a holder. You are referencing the NFL of 30-40 years ago with Reich and Tasker. After Reich left Chis Mohr, the Bills punter was the holder for Steve Christie - so the switch to punter happened over 26 years ago. Expand Are you sure about that? I’m pretty sure that Ruben Brown was the holder back in the 1990s. I know that I heard he led the NFL in holding. 2 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 2:39 PM, unbillievable said: People weren't concerned about Bojo's holding when he was here. Even if he was horrible, Bass' accuracy only changed by a single missed FG when he switched to Haack. (82% to 87%) Expand First, percentages between years can't be exactly compared. Maybe he was attempting harder kicks one year. Second, a 5% difference on more than 30 field goals isn't one field goal, it's between one and two. Third, we can't know which miss/misses were caused by holder problems. Was it the one in the KC game in 2020 where we lost by 9. In that game we would have been behind by 6 instead of 9 when we got the ball back with 1:56 to play. Needing a drive AND an onside kick and a field goal, we'd have had a much much better shot at a win if we'd made that FG earlier. Instead of having to throw the low percentage deep ball to Beasley that was intercepted, there was plenty of time to march slowly down the field. There's an extremely good argument that lost field goal lost the game for us. It wasn't the only thing that lost the game, but if we'd made it, we'd have been in it with a real chance at the end. Was that one of the ones he missed because of the holder? Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 10:09 PM, Desert Bills Fan said: Ease up dude…not saying it is the biggest hole. Do you really want just another thread on CB’s, Interior linemen or Edmunds? Thought this was an interesting conversation. If you’re not interested - just keep scrolling… Expand Actually that was sincere lol how fn refreshing right 😆😆 Went from. Wow we oddly hsve 3 awesome rbs and JAGs at every other spot to... holder problems lol we made it guys 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 1:23 PM, Desert Bills Fan said: Was thinking about maybe the opportunity is there, to use one of our other special teamers: Kumerow, Stevenson, or Taiwan could take on the PK holder duties. I recall that Tasker used to hold at for at least a couple years? And Frank Reich did it too? was just thinking if that is such a concern for “Punt God” , there should be other options… Does anyone on here know if anyone else on the roster have previous experience as a holder? I know some of you follow college football too… Expand On 5/9/2022 at 1:38 PM, dwight in philly said: Maybe Matt Barkley? Expand This again!! I'd suggest you Google why don't other players besides the punter hold anymore for field goals and read just a couple of the dozen articles you'll find on the subject. I'ts not 1990 anymore, rules have changed WRT practice time etc. Yeah Matt Barkley hold, another great idea, then we can have 3 QB's on the 46 man active roster on Sundays just to hold. Quote
NoSaint Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 1:42 PM, Offside Number 76 said: I'm a big fan of using the backup QB to hold for kicks. It opens up all sorts of possibilities. Expand like not being able to run your backup offense or defense through an effective practice Quote
without a drought Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 Someone should just tell Tyler to stop being so damn picky. Quote
BringBackFlutie Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 I really have to be more empathetic and sensitive to the fact that not all people read this forum every day. ....but it still iritates me that the same "new" ideas pop up like once a week. 2 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 2:09 PM, Dan Darragh said: Bring back Bobby Chandler! Expand On 5/9/2022 at 8:00 PM, BuffaloBill said: Where’s @Chandler#81? He supports this idea. Expand I have a call into the Big Guy upstairs as I type. Not really holding out much hope. Bobby’s been Jesus’ holder since he arrived back in the 80’s 😇 1 Quote
unbillievable Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 3:19 AM, RyanC883 said: who held at San Diego State? Expand #13 Jack Browning, the co-starting Kicker/Punter. Quote
dwight in philly Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 2:23 AM, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: This again!! I'd suggest you Google why don't other players besides the punter hold anymore for field goals and read just a couple of the dozen articles you'll find on the subject. I'ts not 1990 anymore, rules have changed WRT practice time etc. Yeah Matt Barkley hold, another great idea, then we can have 3 QB's on the 46 man active roster on Sundays just to hold. Expand As for Barkley holding, it was just a thought , relax.. Quote
3rdnlng Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 3:19 AM, RyanC883 said: who held at San Diego State? Expand The entire offensive line. 1 Quote
Gugny Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 1:51 PM, GunnerBill said: This has been done to death. Expand You're goddamn right, it has. MY GOD. 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/10/2022 at 2:09 PM, 3rdnlng said: The entire offensive line. Expand Quote
Dan Darragh Posted May 10, 2022 Posted May 10, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 2:09 PM, Dan Darragh said: Bring back Bobby Chandler! Expand Perhaps the high point of Chandler's career: The Bare Facts Are He's A Star Quote
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