Rc2catch Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 His role is similar to Mitch last year imo. He’s here to work and build his resume back up after being fired. What better way than getting attached to what should be a top ranked offense and quarterback? 1 1 Quote
hemma Posted May 5, 2022 Author Posted May 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: His role is similar to Mitch last year imo. He’s here to work and build his resume back up after being fired. What better way than getting attached to what should be a top ranked offense and quarterback? Jeesh, I dunno. I never had the feeling that Beane was that much of a Good Samaritan. Gotta pull that oar. Quote
GunnerBill Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 Another pair of eyes and ears for Josh. While he hasn't run exactly this system before there is some read across scheme wise between the E-P that Brees and Payton ran when he was an assistant in New Orleans. We shouldn't forget he has called more NFL plays than our OC at this point. It is about having smart people in the room to make sure the transition to Dorsey goes smoothly and obviously the Bills think he is a talented football coach. 5 Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Another pair of eyes and ears for Josh. While he hasn't run exactly this system before there is some read across scheme wise between the E-P that Brees and Payton ran when he was an assistant in New Orleans. We shouldn't forget he has called more NFL plays than our OC at this point. It is about having smart people in the room to make sure the transition to Dorsey goes smoothly and obviously the Bills think he is a talented football coach. Fully agree. This is pretty much best way to describe it 1 Quote
Seoulofstone Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 I don’t know what to make of Joe Brady as an OC after his two seasons in Carolina. He had two QBs in Bridgewater and Darnold who had plenty of flaws. He relied too much on CMC making the Panthers one dimensional at times and he got a good first season from Robbie Andersen then a big regression. He was the guy who got the best out of Curtis Samuel-again one season. What was surprising was how predictable and unimaginative he could be, the opposite of his reputation in NO and LSU. Quote
ganesh Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 I think the leash will be short on Ken Dorsey. Joe will take over (and very capable) if Dorsey falters 1 2 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 6 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: I think it is more about scouting the opposing defenses and providing information/tendencies from a QB perspective as opposed to giving Josh pointers on throwing the ball. This makes a lot of sense. During the season at least, I presume that it's not the best time for trying to tinker with fundamentals and mechanics. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, ganesh said: I think the leash will be short on Ken Dorsey. Joe will take over (and very capable) if Dorsey falters Hmmmmm, I mean Dorsey would have to really, really do awful and I can't see that. With the weapons on this offense he has everything anyone could ask for to be successful. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 I suspect it is film break down showing on film when he is not using good form, etc. Keeping him on track to be successful and keeping his lessons from coaching guru in mind. During game but specific things why if he had used good form that ball would not have gone high or he could have made throw he was trying to fit in small windows. Quote
chongli Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, eball said: Call me crazy, but how about titling the thread "QB Coach Joe Brady; what's his role with Josh?" Perhaps I shouldn't bring this up, but I am always interested in points of grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc. Is there a reason you recommended a semicolon (;) above, and not a colon (:)? I assume this was just an innocent typo. Quote
billybrew1 Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 I love our offensive coaching staff with four, count ‘em, four current or former offensive coordinators. I’m sure Ken Dorsey is experienced enough by now that all three of the other OCs have their job outlines clearly laid out. I’m one of the few that even appreciates the Shula hire. I agree that he will be breaking down defenses a week in advance to prepare the rest of the coaches for the battle ahead. I just hope the defense makes some adjustments for when we play elite QBs. We have to get pressure on QBs, that’s the whole story. That crap we tried to do vs. KC was completely worthless. We played a very similar defense two years in a row and it’s up to these coaches to know they have to do something different. Step one was free agency where we signed five new defensive linemen including a good pass rusher in Von Miller. It is interesting to note that the DTs we signed all have some pass rush skills and/or pocket crumbling capabilities. Combine all that info with the fact that we rightfully decided to sink or swim with those three high draft picks at end. All of this says to me that we are going to play our DL different than in year’s past. We will line Von in a wide nine. We will create a roll for Bernard on third and ten or more to rush the passer by the playoffs if he stays healthy, imho… We’ll stop pushing OTs into the QB so much… We will try to hit the QB more than we have in the past. I also think Bernard might be used to spell Von on a casino. Again, third and very long… At least I hope we try new ways to disrupt a QB and we play more aggressively. Elam is going to be a huge hit and he will add great speed to our once, not so fast defense backfield. Our slowest corner is now our fastest. He’s big and mean as well. Can’t wait to see the kids this summer! 2 1 Quote
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 6 hours ago, hemma said: Been here for a few years, but this is my 1st thread. I don’t see a way in the gui to git er done. Computer: click and hold on the title while you're not in the thread. Mobile device: edit the op, title should appear in a separate text window for editing. Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Another pair of eyes and ears for Josh. While he hasn't run exactly this system before there is some read across scheme wise between the E-P that Brees and Payton ran when he was an assistant in New Orleans. We shouldn't forget he has called more NFL plays than our OC at this point. It is about having smart people in the room to make sure the transition to Dorsey goes smoothly and obviously the Bills think he is a talented football coach. Agree and would add... this is not a Mom and Pop organization any more. 1) As one of the best organizations in the league (have you looked at their personnel department?) you can bet your bottom dollar that the Bills vetted Brady deeply. 2) This team is stacked with highly-credentialed people in every department. Besides the fact that Brady was the Panthers OC: Rob Boras was the Rams OC Mike Shula was the Bucs, Panthers, and Giants OC Aaron Kromer was the Bears OC It would actually be ridiculous to not give the Bills the benefit of the doubt on this hire. For God's sake, they're a team with 4 former OCs in addition to their current OC. Hiring Brady added to what was already an embarrassment of riches. 4 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 My understanding of a QB coach in general (not Brady in particular) is that they do things: (1) Work with the QBs, particularly in the offseason/preseason, to make sure they understand the playbook and the offensive scheme. When running drills, they'll coach the QB to throw to the right guy at the right time given the play-call and circumstances. (2) Work with the QBs during the playing season to make sure they understand their opponent: scheme, proclivities, players, weaknesses and so on. As I understand it, most QB coaches do very little work on things like accuracy and biomechanics - though some do more. Some, I'm told, are also good at teaching the leadership aspect of the QB position. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 His role? Get coffee. Cover for Josh when Brit calls looking for him. Get ice cream. Designated driver. Body guard. 1 1 Quote
hemma Posted May 6, 2022 Author Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: His role? Get coffee. Cover for Josh when Brit calls looking for him. Get ice cream. Designated driver. Body guard. Kind of a butler but gets to wear sweatpants. Oh man I want that job. I can iron. 4 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted May 6, 2022 Posted May 6, 2022 I don’t understand the question. I understand this is you’re first thread, but do you not know what is the role of a QB Coach? Do you need help on NFL 101 on every QB Coach in the entire league. He has lots of experience with Carolina, New Orleans, and a too SEC program in LSU. Whats you’re real question as you make no sense. Are you questioning his qualifications or what is the role as there are a lot of NFL audiobooks on what coaches do in this league. Quote
hemma Posted May 6, 2022 Author Posted May 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I don’t understand the question. I understand this is you’re first thread, but do you not know what is the role of a QB Coach? Do you need help on NFL 101 on every QB Coach in the entire league. He has lots of experience with Carolina, New Orleans, and a too SEC program in LSU. Whats you’re real question as you make no sense. Are you questioning his qualifications or what is the role as there are a lot of NFL audiobooks on what coaches do in this league. I was asking what he specifically would do with someone as gifted and on top of his game as Josh. I’ve received a variety of responses, most of which were helpful. Yours? not so much. Quote
JoPoy88 Posted May 8, 2022 Posted May 8, 2022 On 5/5/2022 at 2:41 PM, hemma said: This is a question, not an answer. I understand he’s very young & has had mixed success in college/pros. I am wondering what you more learned football scholars envision as to his importance & his role, particularly with Josh. I am pretty fuzzy on the issue. Wondering if he’s the equivalent of teats on a boar hawg. Thanks i mean, I wouldn’t call his success “mixed” across college and pros. Yes, he failed in carolina as an OC; that won’t be his job here. He’s looked pretty impressive otherwise. Maybe that was a result of circumstances, especially at LSU, but let’s wait and see. Quote
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