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On 5/1/2022 at 9:39 AM, klos63 said:

We draft a punter that's never held for a kicker, a year after not signing Bojorquez, who also had an incredibly strong leg, but was a poor holder.  The team felt the holder was so critical that we kept an 'elite' holder even though he was a poor punter. It's an interesting pick and Araiza is no lock to make the team.


i don’t understand why they think the punter has to be the holder.  It can be a sure-handed WR (Bob Chandler did it for years) or a backup QB, which used to be pretty common.

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6 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:


i don’t understand why they think the punter has to be the holder.  It can be a sure-handed WR (Bob Chandler did it for years) or a backup QB, which used to be pretty common.

 

It is because of the CBA restrictions on practice time. Back in those days when teams could practice as long as they wanted pretty much you just got the backup QB or receiver to stay behind and practice with the specialists. Can't do that now. So if you are taking a backup QB or receiver to practice with your ST unit you are taking him away from the offensive gameplan install. It was the punter for all 32 teams last year and that is why. 

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15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is because of the CBA restrictions on practice time. Back in those days when teams could practice as long as they wanted pretty much you just got the backup QB or receiver to stay behind and practice with the specialists. Can't do that now. So if you are taking a backup QB or receiver to practice with your ST unit you are taking him away from the offensive gameplan install. It was the punter for all 32 teams last year and that is why. 

 

Yup, and it’s such a bummer.  You’d definitely think teams would prefer a backup QB doing it, because (a) they’re used to taking shotgun snaps and (b) you have more options to fake with a real thrower back there.

 

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Buddy only traded down once for EJ. #8 to #16 as a I recall it. And he got a 2nd round pick out of it I think. 

Whoops.  You're right  They got a second and a seventh from St. Louis to move from 8 to 16. 

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32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is because of the CBA restrictions on practice time. Back in those days when teams could practice as long as they wanted pretty much you just got the backup QB or receiver to stay behind and practice with the specialists. Can't do that now. So if you are taking a backup QB or receiver to practice with your ST unit you are taking him away from the offensive gameplan install. It was the punter for all 32 teams last year and that is why. 

i had no idea that this was the issue.  thanks for the explanation.  

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On 5/5/2022 at 7:58 AM, Shaw66 said:

Whoops.  You're right  They got a second and a seventh from St. Louis to move from 8 to 16. 


I remember loving that trade down. But I also wanted them to trade down again. EJ was my guy that year (meh), but he obviously wasn’t a sure thing by any stretch of the imagination. I thought we could’ve dropped into the mid 20s and still had our pick of QBs pretty safely. 

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On 5/5/2022 at 4:26 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

It is because of the CBA restrictions on practice time. Back in those days when teams could practice as long as they wanted pretty much you just got the backup QB or receiver to stay behind and practice with the specialists. Can't do that now. So if you are taking a backup QB or receiver to practice with your ST unit you are taking him away from the offensive gameplan install. It was the punter for all 32 teams last year and that is why. 


The NFL Contract negotiators for the collective bargaining agreement obviously don’t consult the coaches before making concessions.

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