whorlnut Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 For me it’s Khalil Shakir. Not sure how a guy with 4.43 speed and his production can be there when there was a massive run on WRs. Apparently Beane thought enough of him to move up 20 spots to get him. Everything I see says he’s elite in YAC, which is something we sorely lack. He’s our long term slot IMO. I expect to see him get burn this year in sweeps and returns. I’m very excited about this pick. 2 3 Quote
Last Guy on the Bench Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 I'm going against the chalk to say Bernard. Can't say I had ever heard of him pre-draft, but watching the highlights, reading the scouting reports, and, most of all, listening to him (super impressive guy), he's the kind of player I just love. And I still have a soft spot for a playmaking linebacker, because I am old and haven't quite caught up to the fact that LBs aren't nearly as important as they once were. He's not the best player we drafted (probably), and could just be a kind of useful backup in his career. But I'm hoping he's stamped for bigger things. Love the way he plays. Shakir would probably be second for me. 5 1 Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: For me it’s Khalil Shakir. Not sure how a guy with 4.43 speed and his production can be there when there was a massive run on WRs. Apparently Beane thought enough of him to move up 20 spots to get him. Everything I see says he’s elite in YAC, which is something we sorely lack. He’s our long term slot IMO. I expect to see him get burn this year in sweeps and returns. I’m very excited about this pick. I'm definitely a Shakir fan also but it's the obvious choice for me, CB Kaiir Elam, this kid seems hungry, already wanted the playbook on the plane and will most likely soak everything the secondary is offering him as far as getting up to speed. I saw what they did with 7th round pick Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson, I can't even imagine what this kid will be in a year or 2 but I'm excited to see. 4 Quote
Last Guy on the Bench Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: I'm definitely a Shakir fan also but it's the obvious choice for me, CB Kaiir Elam, this kid seems hungry, already wanted the playbook on the plane and will most likely soak everything the secondary is offering him as far as getting up to speed. I saw what they did with 7th round pick Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson, I can't even imagine what this kid will be in a year or 2 but I'm excited to see. Can't argue with that. Another super impressive guy. I hadn't watched much of him, because of the reports that he doesn't tackle (which now seem way overblown). But the more I see, the more sure I am that at worst he will be a decent starting corner. At best, he's got the juice and the mentality to be an all-pro if he puts it together. 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 Elam was my favorite. I think a much needed upgrade over Wallace and also has room for additional improvement. Can't wait to see what he becomes with our coaching. I'll say Bernard is a close second. I said in other posts, the more I read and watch I understand why we drafted him. Plus having a Milano clone, I think he was a great choice as a 3rd LB and potentially a great backup in case of injury. 1 1 Quote
DCbillsfan Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 While I'm excited about what Cook could bring to the offense, as well as, Bernard to the defense when they go 4 - 3, my choice is Elam. I've been wanting an upgrade at CB2 for 2 years now. I think Elam will allow defensive play calls we haven't seen since McD arrived. Quote
SCBills Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 James Cook. Get him a bit more bulked up and he’s designed in a lab for the Bills Offense. 3 1 1 5 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, whorlnut said: For me it’s Khalil Shakir. Not sure how a guy with 4.43 speed and his production can be there when there was a massive run on WRs. Apparently Beane thought enough of him to move up 20 spots to get him. Everything I see says he’s elite in YAC, which is something we sorely lack. He’s our long term slot IMO. I expect to see him get burn this year in sweeps and returns. I’m very excited about this pick. This needs poll. 2 2 Quote
blacklabel Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 They certainly have a theme with the type of players they prefer to pick. High character, hard workers, humble, team first, smart, etc. And they’re not afraid to look at a player not only for what he is now but what he can be with their training and coaching. I’m pretty psyched for Shakir. Like a lot of their other picks, I’m sure they’ll work him in slowly. Everything I’ve read about him sounds super positive. I saw scout quotes that thought he could go as high as mid-second round, but I also saw scout quotes that said he was completely average at everything and the scout wouldn’t even consider him for a UDFA signing. Whatever, opinions are all over the place this year. The main knocks I saw on him were the short arms and teams being unsure of how to best utilize his skill set. I mean, if those are really the only two things keeping you from adding this guy to your team then, I dunno, you’re kind of a dummy. It certainly appears he has enough positive traits to compensate for the areas he lacks in. Bernard is also intriguing. Super under the radar pick but he’s super smart, productive, if a little undersized. Beane will go for a player who has all the traits you want except elite size. I remember when they drafted Milano, he was like 6’0” 219 coming out of college and had played safety early on at BC. I thought he was too small to play linebacker but he’s been nothing but a perfect fit in this system and a solid player. Heck, the most athletically gifted player with elite physical tools (Edmunds) is the one that gets dragged non-stop by a lot of the online Bills fan community. Basically, if you’ve got the desire to get better along with the other traits I named above plus at least average athleticism, then you’ve got a chance to make it on the Bills roster. They’re gonna maximize what they already do well and do as much as they can to improve in the areas that most need it. Quote
AuntieEm Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Last Guy on the Bench said: Can't argue with that. Another super impressive guy. I hadn't watched much of him, because of the reports that he doesn't tackle (which now seem way overblown). But the more I see, the more sure I am that at worst he will be a decent starting corner. At best, he's got the juice and the mentality to be an all-pro if he puts it together. I take lack of tackling when they are still in college not as critical as many of these kids just want to do well and get drafted. While getting a free college education is nice it doesn't offset loss of potential earning if they should suffer any major injury, so the less physical players may just be self preservation to get to the NFL healthy. Quote
blacklabel Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, whorlnut said: For me it’s Khalil Shakir. Not sure how a guy with 4.43 speed and his production can be there when there was a massive run on WRs. Apparently Beane thought enough of him to move up 20 spots to get him. Everything I see says he’s elite in YAC, which is something we sorely lack. He’s our long term slot IMO. I expect to see him get burn this year in sweeps and returns. I’m very excited about this pick. According to some of the ol’ anonymous scout quotes I read, the big knocks on Shakir are the 29” arms (too short for a lot of teams, apparently) and the sense that he’s mainly just average at everything with no real elite skills or traits. Also, that some teams wouldn’t know how to best utilize his skill set. Quote
whorlnut Posted May 1, 2022 Author Posted May 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, blacklabel said: According to some of the ol’ anonymous scout quotes I read, the big knocks on Shakir are the 29” arms (too short for a lot of teams, apparently) and the sense that he’s mainly just average at everything with no real elite skills or traits. Also, that some teams wouldn’t know how to best utilize his skill set. Well I’ve seen a lot of Deebo Samuel-like predictions. He’s got good speed, used in jet sweeps, the slot, go routes. I’ve seen a lot of contested catches and good use of his catch radius on highlight videos. I’ve also read he’s one of the best at YAC. I think he’s got a great chance of being our slot for a few years at least. Quote
Kmart128 Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 I cant believe ive ever said this during a Punter selection but for me its Punt God. That got me a audible yes when we annouced pick.... could just because i was shocked he made it to us after Stout and Camarda went so much earlier 2 2 Quote
blacklabel Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Well I’ve seen a lot of Deebo Samuel-like predictions. He’s got good speed, used in jet sweeps, the slot, go routes. I’ve seen a lot of contested catches and good use of his catch radius on highlight videos. I’ve also read he’s one of the best at YAC. I think he’s got a great chance of being our slot for a few years at least. I’m with ya, I’m excited for the pick. I was just reiterating some of the quotes I’ve seen. Compared to what he’s shown he can do, I wouldn’t look at the short arms as a barrier. They’re a little under the prototypical length or whatever but the dude more than makes up for it with his versatility. Lots of ways Dorsey can get him involved. I expect we won’t see much of him early on as is customary with McDermott rookies, but if he performs well when his number is called we should see him featured more and more as the season goes on. I like Cook too, and OJ Howard to go along with the group of Diggs, Davis, Crowder, McKenzie, Knox, and Singletary. Lot of options. Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 I like the Elam pick but love the potential of the Cook pick and what it does for our franchise QB. 1 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted May 1, 2022 Posted May 1, 2022 Araiza, and it ain't close for second place. 1 Quote
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