John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: James Cook runs a 4.42. I eluded to him being fast, just not an elite burner that defenses will lose sleep over. The 4.8 mention was me using an RB to beg the question regarding "blazing acceleration", a term that another poster used to describe a Cook attribute that I don't see him as having.; would a 4.8 speed RB be tagged as having "blazing acceleration" regardless of how much more quickly he hit top speed than a 4.40 speed RB? Probably not. Speed and acceleration are two separate attributes, but I'm guessing elite-level acceleration paired with 4.42 speed would allow Cook to beat defenders to angles and pull away from them regularly with ease, I don't see that happening in the clips I watch of him (this and his inability to break tackles is why I don't care for where he was selected) and believe he was assigned an attribute solely based off his 40 time, and perhaps because we've been in need of a faster RB and the poster wants to believe we have that home-run hitter in Cook. I don't believe we do. I read this three times to give the benefit of the doubt just to make sure it would make sense....it still doesnt If you cannot see that Cook doesnt have these traits I dont know what to tell you.....he kills it in in every measurable trait..... 2 1 Quote
BurpleBull Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I read this three times to give the benefit of the doubt just to make sure it would make sense....it still doesnt If you cannot see that Cook doesnt have these traits I dont know what to tell you.....he kills it in in every measurable trait..... No, I agree he doesn't have elite breakaway speed. That and break tacklability...not very elusive either. 2 Quote
John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: No, I agree he doesn't have elite breakaway speed. That and break tacklability...not very elusive either. .............. 1 2 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: No, I agree he doesn't have elite breakaway speed. That and break tacklability...not very elusive either. tell me then What is the difference between Breece Hall 4:39 and James Cook 4:42 You actually think .03 is the difference between Elite speed and not Elite speed? That what you're saying? Or should we of gotten Tariq Woolen ran a 4:26 .16 faster then Cook? Should we of gotten Tariq Woolen in round 5? 1 Quote
billsfan1959 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 53 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: No, I agree he doesn't have elite breakaway speed. That and break tacklability...not very elusive either. Wasn't his break tacklability score at the combine through the roof? 2 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 I just want to say... people talk about speed.. Combine speeds mean nothing.. You want to see someone run fast? Attack a steak to a guys ankles and let the Deverman pinchers chase ya... then you see speed Point being.... you run even faster with people chasing you... Just thought I would throw that out there.... 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: tell me then What is the difference between Breece Hall 4:39 and James Cook 4:42 You actually think .03 is the difference between Elite speed and not Elite speed? That what you're saying? Or should we of gotten Tariq Woolen ran a 4:26 .16 faster then Cook? Should we of gotten Tariq Woolen in round 5? It's seems like a Breece Hall cult has started up on the Bills message board 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 27 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: It's seems like a Breece Hall cult has started up on the Bills message board are you saying I would of rather of gotten Hall? I am happy who we got... Quote
BurpleBull Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 51 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Wasn't his break tacklability score at the combine through the roo 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: tell me then What is the difference between Breece Hall 4:39 and James Cook 4:42 You actually think .03 is the difference between Elite speed and not Elite speed? That what you're saying? Or should we of gotten Tariq Woolen ran a 4:26 .16 faster then Cook? Should we of gotten Tariq Woolen in round 5? Putting the . whatever aside I take issue with the lack of vision comment. That is complete horseshit Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Putting the . whatever aside I take issue with the lack of vision comment. That is complete horseshit Lack of vision? what are you talking about man? maybe you should go back and look who and what i was quoting in the first place Edited May 5, 2022 by PrimeTime101 Quote
John from Riverside Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Lack of vision? what are you talking about man? maybe you should go back and look who and what i was quoting in the first place Prime.....I was not responding to your comment I was responding to what Purple put out Quote
BurpleBull Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: tell me then What is the difference between Breece Hall 4:39 and James Cook 4:42 You actually think .03 is the difference between Elite speed and not Elite speed? That what you're saying? Or should we of gotten Tariq Woolen ran a 4:26 .16 faster then Cook? Should we of gotten Tariq Woolen in round 5? Nothing, if the 40 time doesn't translate to ripping off big yardage in-game. I just don't see a back that will strike fear in defenses when I watch Cook's highlights. 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Prime.....I was not responding to your comment I was responding to what Purple put out AH LOVE clarification. thanks ha ha 24 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Nothing, if the 40 time doesn't translate to ripping off big yardage in-game. I just don't see a back that will strike fear in defenses when I watch Cook's highlights. sorry your clueless have you watched any of his film? or full games? I have. Edited May 5, 2022 by PrimeTime101 Quote
Luka Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 On 5/2/2022 at 11:26 AM, nucci said: except for Von Miller... So you'd rather have him overspend on a RB in free agency? An even above average edge rusher isn't in the same ball park as the running back position, especially with a QB like Josh Allen. Quote
billsrul120 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Nothing, if the 40 time doesn't translate to ripping off big yardage in-game. I just don't see a back that will strike fear in defenses when I watch Cook's highlights. Breece Hall's 10 yd split was 1.54 seconds James Cook's 10 yd split was 1.55 seconds So 0.01 second difference in acceleration. Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 1 minute ago, billsrul120 said: Breece Hall's 10 yd split was 1.54 seconds James Cook's 10 yd split was 1.55 seconds So 0.01 second difference in acceleration. dont try... he SEE'S different.... Quote
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