Giants decline Jones 5th year option

[wppete]

1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said:

Daboll and Schoen already making smart moves

Yeah, will be following the Giants close this year. Exciting to see them operate. I’ll be cheering for them as long as they don’t play the Bills. 

[billsfan1959]

5 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

When the Bills needed a qb in 2013 they didn't care that it was an extraordinarily weak year for qb's. They reached and took a guy in the 1st round who probably should have been a 3rd rounder based on his talent. Hopefully the Giants panic and take a qb to develop during Jones' final year.

 

Schoen isn't going to panic

[DCofNC]

Why is anybody surprised?  Everyone is laughing at Cleveland for paying Mayfield right now and he was 2x the QB Jones ever has shown to be.  He was an obvious reach at the time and it didn’t work out.  If Dabs can get him going, they can still re-sign him to a prove it deal.

[Norcalbillsfan]

3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Daboll and Schoen already making smart moves

Exactly, everyone thinks this is a sign that they are drafting a qb. But think about it, shoen and daboll haven't worked with Jones at all and signed Tyrod, it doesn't mean they already dislike Jones, it means you can't sign a 5th year option on a qb with a rocky past then Tyrod beats him out at training camp and starts week 1, that makes you look dumb the beginning of your tenure.

[Greg S]

19 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said:

How exciting.

 

I am so glad we don't have to go through this(finding a QB) anymore with the Bills. 

[Virgil]

I'm kind of curious about this decision.  I'm not a Danny Dimes fan, but 22 mil for the 5th year option isn't a lot for a QB  I know the Giants are in cap hell, so maybe it's moreso that.

 

Overall, I would just think they would want more than one year to evaluate him in the new system.  If he has even a moderately good season, might he not cost more than 22?

[ddaryl]

I have heard, and I believe it to be true that the Giants want to parlay one of their 2022 1st rd picks into 1st rd 2023 pick and change. The belief is to make a move for a QB in a draft that is expected to have a better QB class in 2023. That's a good plan if they can find a partner IMO
 

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Overall, I would just think they would want more than one year to evaluate him in the new system.  If he has even a moderately good season, might he not cost more than 22?

What are the tags going to cost the Giants ?  Looks like $27 mil for Transition, and just under $30 Mil for exclusive

Edited April 28, 2022 by ddaryl

[mannc]

I think this means a QB is in play at 5 or 7... 

[Max Fischer]

44 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said:

Good news for the Bills. This just means another team is drafting a qb and pushing talent down the draft board.

 

It may be more likely they'll draft a QB next year. 

[FilthyBeast]

41 minutes ago, Greg S said:

Tyrod Taylor time. Wouldn't surprise me if he becomes the starter at some point.

 

If Jones doesn't show much early on and recapture the ability he seemed to show as a rookie it will probably just be a musical chairs situation at QB all year.

 

[PonyBoy]

Danny Dimes feels like 2¢ waiting for change. 

[Bray Wyatt]

10 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

I have heard, and I believe it to be true that the Giants want to parlay one of their 2022 1st rd picks into 1st rd 2023 pick and change. The belief is to make a move for a QB in a draft that is expected to have a better QB class in 2023. That's a good plan if they can find a partner IMO
 

What are the tags going to cost the Giants ?  Looks like $27 mil for Transition, and just under $30 Mil for exclusive

 

Buffalo Bills may want to be that team

[MrEpsYtown]

It's the right move. If he is good all of a sudden from better coaching, you just franchise the dude. 

[ddaryl]

Just now, Bray Wyatt said:

 

Buffalo Bills may want to be that team

Cost would be great though. We'd swap our 1st this year and give up our 1st next year and would probably have to give them our 2nd this year plus a few more picks,

2023 picks are only worth about 50% of 2022 picks 

[Bray Wyatt]

Just now, ddaryl said:

Cost would be great though. We'd swap our 1st this year and give up our 1st next year and would probably have to give them our 2nd this year plus a few more picks,

2023 picks are only worth about 50% of 2022 picks 

 

I am ok with that if we get 1 of sauce, hamilton, or jameson

[mannc]

Just now, Bray Wyatt said:

 

I am ok with that if we get 1 of sauce, hamilton, or jameson

Nope…rather stand pat.  This is not a good year to trade up.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

I am ok with that if we get 1 of sauce, hamilton, or jameson

I agree, but would add Stingley to the list to make it 4. 

[mannc]

Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

I agree, but would add Stingley to the list to make it 4. 

The guy who hasn’t played well since 2019, and has been constantly hurt?

[Bray Wyatt]

Just now, mannc said:

Nope…rather stand pat.  This is not a good year to trade up.

 

I think with less people wanting to move up, we could potentially pay less esp if the giants want another first for next year. Cant see too many people offering that.

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

18 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

 

It may be more likely they'll draft a QB next year. 

Yes, but this year they have #5 and #7 while they have no idea where they'll draft next season. Maybe they trade one of those picks for a 1st rounder in the 2023 draft.