Big Turk Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Kind of a weird trade. Patriots get 2 picks back for their 5th, the Texans 6th and 7th round picks. Patriots didn't have a 7th this year. Usually don't see these ahead of the draft as they typically depend who is on the board at the time of the pick. Quote
Milanos Milano Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 As long as they don’t draft the next Tom Brady with it, all is good. 2 2 2 Quote
Draconator Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Belichick is loading up on low round picks to give to Goodell for a 3rd round compensatory pick 1 1 Quote
Saxum Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 A Texans 6th round pick is almost a 5th round pick because it is so high. https://www.battleredblog.com/2022-nfl-draft/2022/4/25/23041672/houston-texans-trade-new-england-patriots-5th-round-pick-nfl-draft Quote Just days before the 2022 NFL Draft, Houston Texans general manager Nick Caserio has struck a deal with his former team, the New England Patriots. Any guesses on which team he will be working for after he is fired? 3 Quote
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Funny thing is, I saw an article the other day stating that the Pats have the most draft trades Really, how’s that been going for them? 🤣 1 Quote
frogger Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 Got to have the right picks to get Slade Bolden. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 23 minutes ago, Limeaid said: A Texans 6th round pick is almost a 5th round pick because it is so high. https://www.battleredblog.com/2022-nfl-draft/2022/4/25/23041672/houston-texans-trade-new-england-patriots-5th-round-pick-nfl-draft Any guesses on which team he will be working for after he is fired? The team he worked for for 19 years? Quote
msw2112 Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Limeaid said: A Texans 6th round pick is almost a 5th round pick because it is so high. https://www.battleredblog.com/2022-nfl-draft/2022/4/25/23041672/houston-texans-trade-new-england-patriots-5th-round-pick-nfl-draft Any guesses on which team he will be working for after he is fired? Correct. To put more context to this tade, the Pats traded back 13 spots from their 5th round pick in exchange for a 7th round pick. Pats trade away to Texans: Pick #170 Pats acquire from Texans: Pick #183 and #245. I would say this trade is fair, but slightly favors the Pats. At that later point in the draft, the difference in quality of players isn't that great and the chances of them making the roster are about the same. I doubt there's a statistic that would show the success rate of Player #170 vs. Player #183, but I would guess it wouldn't be much different. So the Pats get a fairly equivalent pick, plus another flyer in the 7th round. It certainly seems like a silly trade for the Texans to make at this point in time. I could see it being made during the draft (as mentioned above) if there was a particular player targeted at that spot that the Texans really wanted and feared might get away, but why make that trade now? Edited April 25, 2022 by msw2112 2 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted April 25, 2022 Author Posted April 25, 2022 27 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Billy playing 8D CHESS Lmao... Quote
Saxum Posted April 25, 2022 Posted April 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Billy playing 8D CHESS Chess is not a game he prefers. He prefers games where lines are blurred and easy to cheat in. 1 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 53 minutes ago, msw2112 said: Correct. To put more context to this tade, the Pats traded back 13 spots from their 5th round pick in exchange for a 7th round pick. Pats trade away to Texans: Pick #170 Pats acquire from Texans: Pick #183 and #245. I would say this trade is fair, but slightly favors the Pats. At that later point in the draft, the difference in quality of players isn't that great and the chances of them making the roster are about the same. I doubt there's a statistic that would show the success rate of Player #170 vs. Player #183, but I would guess it wouldn't be much different. So the Pats get a fairly equivalent pick, plus another flyer in the 7th round. It certainly seems like a silly trade for the Texans to make at this point in time. I could see it being made during the draft (as mentioned above) if there was a particular player targeted at that spot that the Texans really wanted and feared might get away, but why make that trade now? Exactly right. The chances of getting a starter that late aren't great. The chances of getting a difference maker are even slimmer. There's been statistical studies on this. The 5th, 6th and 7th rounds are not loaded with talent. Though there's usually a Pro Bowler or two buried in there somewhere. But the odds of finding a Pro Bowler in the 7th round are pretty much the same as finding one in the 5th. In either case, it's a long shot. Belichick is effectively doubling his chances of getting a good player. Or very nearly so. 2 Quote
Putin Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: Still a genius Maybe he would like to give us his 4th for both of our 6th rounds ? Quote
Logic Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, msw2112 said: Correct. To put more context to this tade, the Pats traded back 13 spots from their 5th round pick in exchange for a 7th round pick. Pats trade away to Texans: Pick #170 Pats acquire from Texans: Pick #183 and #245. I would say this trade is fair, but slightly favors the Pats. At that later point in the draft, the difference in quality of players isn't that great and the chances of them making the roster are about the same. I doubt there's a statistic that would show the success rate of Player #170 vs. Player #183, but I would guess it wouldn't be much different. So the Pats get a fairly equivalent pick, plus another flyer in the 7th round. It certainly seems like a silly trade for the Texans to make at this point in time. I could see it being made during the draft (as mentioned above) if there was a particular player targeted at that spot that the Texans really wanted and feared might get away, but why make that trade now? It really is a silly trade for the Texans, for one main reason: They're early in a rebuild. You'd think they'd want as many draft picks as possible. They're not like the Bills or Chiefs, saying to themselves that they don't think a 7th round pick will make the roster. For the Texans to be the ones giving up the extra pick, and to be doing it this far in advance, is just bizarre. Nick Cesario appears to have been out-gamed by his old chum Belichick on this one. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: Kind of a weird trade. Patriots get 2 picks back for their 5th, the Texans 6th and 7th round picks. Patriots didn't have a 7th this year. Usually don't see these ahead of the draft as they typically depend who is on the board at the time of the pick. 4-D Chess. Mere mortals like us can never understand. Quote
intimidatortj Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, msw2112 said: Correct. To put more context to this tade, the Pats traded back 13 spots from their 5th round pick in exchange for a 7th round pick. Pats trade away to Texans: Pick #170 Pats acquire from Texans: Pick #183 and #245. I would say this trade is fair, but slightly favors the Pats. At that later point in the draft, the difference in quality of players isn't that great and the chances of them making the roster are about the same. I doubt there's a statistic that would show the success rate of Player #170 vs. Player #183, but I would guess it wouldn't be much different. So the Pats get a fairly equivalent pick, plus another flyer in the 7th round. It certainly seems like a silly trade for the Texans to make at this point in time. I could see it being made during the draft (as mentioned above) if there was a particular player targeted at that spot that the Texans really wanted and feared might get away, but why make that trade now? Well said. Players at that point in the draft all have about the same chance of success, so basically Belicheck picked up an extra 7th. Maybe he gets lucky with that extra pick. Quote
Augie Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 I refuse to jinx this thread by discussing Belichick’s draft history. He’s a GENIUS! We should fear what he has planned! 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 26, 2022 Posted April 26, 2022 Belichick isn’t a good drafter. I really couldn’t care less about what the Pats do now. They are a has been with Brady gone. 2 Quote
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