This is such BS - Britt Reid trial now postponed to Sept 2022

[Hapless Bills Fan]

https://ktvo.com/news/local/britt-reids-dui-trial-date-postponed-until-september-01-28-2022

 

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Reid's trial was scheduled for April but was rescheduled on Friday to Sept. 26. Reid, the son of Chiefs Coach Andy Reid, was charged after a Feb. 4, 2021, crash near Arrowhead Stadium that critically injured a 5-year-old girl.

Reid pleaded not guilty in June.

The trial was rescheduled after discussion during a brief hearing Friday concerning the availability of toxicology reports and some expert witnesses.

 

[Patrick Duffy]

Yeah not surprising. That's one of those things that happens a lot when person has plenty of money. Probably will get continued a few times 

[MasterStrategist]

I think it was postponed, back in January...so sorta old news.

 

But agree, frustrating to many and prayers to the kids/family.

[Matt_In_NH]

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[MJS]

Is there a reason that postponement is such a bad thing? Just because it will take longer to come to a resolution?

[Patrick Duffy]

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

Is there a reason that postponement is such a bad thing? Just because it will take longer to come to a resolution?

Well I suspect it's a bad thing for that family having to keep waiting, but that's how it goes sometimes. Nothing they can do about it really 

[Long Suffering Fan]

It's ridiculous because there is no reason that it should take 18 months to get something like this to trial.  A speedy trial should be the norm.

 

- Delays are bad for a defendant if they happen to be innocent because it drags out the time that the sword of Damocles is hanging over their head.

- It is bad for a plaintiff it they happen to be right because it drags it out and does not give them closure.

 

But it all racks up billable hours for lawyers, so I guess it is good for them.  Grrrrr....

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said:

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exactly.  this has nothing to do with him being a “rich kid.”  Courts, esp. criminal, are backed up now coming off Covid, and you need the full materials available or you risk a mistrial/retrial and further delay.  It does not matter how much money you have, you can get a postponement like this in most places currently.   

2 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Well I suspect it's a bad thing for that family having to keep waiting, but that's how it goes sometimes. Nothing they can do about it really 

 

better to wait, then wait and have another postponement or mistrial.  Likely the DA agreed to the postponement.  

[maddenboy]

5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

exactly.  this has nothing to do with him being a “rich kid.”  Courts, esp. criminal, are backed up now coming off Covid, and you need the full materials available or you risk a mistrial/retrial and further delay.  It does not matter how much money you have, you can get a postponement like this in most places currently.   

 

better to wait, then wait and have another postponement or mistrial.  Likely the DA agreed to the postponement.  

Yes, likely the DA agreed with the postponement.

 

A factor in continuing trial is whether the passage of time would change anything, like the evidence, witness memories, etc.   Priority is given for several other things, like people in custody (not out on bail) or whatever else the jurisdiction prioritizes.  The DA is not gonna draw a line in the sand for a routine case like this.  It would look like the DA was grandstanding for attention if there is really no other reason to oppose the continuance.

 

Edited April 25, 2022 by maddenboy

[Freddie's Dead]

3 hours ago, MJS said:

Is there a reason that postponement is such a bad thing? Just because it will take longer to come to a resolution?

 

Justice delayed is justice denied.  Just ask Marshawn Lynch's lawyers, who got his DUI in Oakland while with the Seahawks postponed for over 18 months, until Alameda County prosecutors just gave up and pleaded him down to misdemeanor reckless driving.  He, of course, won a Super Bowl while awaiting trial.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/marshawn-lynch-resolving-dui-case/story?id=22605669

[First Round Bust]

rules applied to most of us do not apply those in wealth and or power

[Royale with Cheese]

8 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

exactly.  this has nothing to do with him being a “rich kid.”  Courts, esp. criminal, are backed up now coming off Covid, and you need the full materials available or you risk a mistrial/retrial and further delay.  It does not matter how much money you have, you can get a postponement like this in most places currently.   

 

better 

I lived in a townhouse the last few years before I moved about 2 months ago.

 

A guy was arrested for child porn, filming it, selling it and “recruiting”.  This was February of 2020.  Covid delayed his court date until later this August.

Myself and several residents talked with our HOA President and he can’t legally do anything until trial….and has to be convicted.  

I have a 7 year old and I am so glad I’m gone now.

[wppete]

No mercy for idiots drinking and driving. Throw the book at all of them. 

[PetermansRedemption]

11 minutes ago, wppete said:

No mercy for idiots drinking and driving. Throw the book at all of them. 

Especially this one, with his history. Unfortunately he has money and will get nothing more than a slap on the wrist. 

[machine gun kelly]

I’d lay $ he’s continued and then eventually pleaded down.

[aristocrat]

58 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I lived in a townhouse the last few years before I moved about 2 months ago.

 

A guy was arrested for child porn, filming it, selling it and “recruiting”.  This was February of 2020.  Covid delayed his court date until later this August.

Myself and several residents talked with our HOA President and he can’t legally do anything until trial….and has to be convicted.  

I have a 7 year old and I am so glad I’m gone now.

 

holy *****

[Mickey]

11 hours ago, Long Suffering Fan said:

It's ridiculous because there is no reason that it should take 18 months to get something like this to trial.  A speedy trial should be the norm.

 

- Delays are bad for a defendant if they happen to be innocent because it drags out the time that the sword of Damocles is hanging over their head.

- It is bad for a plaintiff it they happen to be right because it drags it out and does not give them closure.

 

But it all racks up billable hours for lawyers, so I guess it is good for them.  Grrrrr....

 

I can think of dozens of reasons why it would take longer than 18 months. Discovery, depositions, video tape depositions, motions, expert witnesses, evidence availability, site investigation and on and on. Just juggling the schedules of the lawyers, the parties, the witnesses and everyone else involved can slow things to a crawl. 

 

A billable hour is when a lawyer spends an hour of their time working on the client's case and yes, they do get paid for that just like mechanics, doctors, plumbers and electricians.  The reason people pay for that work is because as with plumbers, its worth it.

 

As for speedy trials, everyone willing to quadruple the taxes already paid every year to keep the courts functioning at a faster pace, raise your hand.

[H2o]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I lived in a townhouse the last few years before I moved about 2 months ago.

 

A guy was arrested for child porn, filming it, selling it and “recruiting”.  This was February of 2020.  Covid delayed his court date until later this August.

Myself and several residents talked with our HOA President and he can’t legally do anything until trial….and has to be convicted.  

I have a 7 year old and I am so glad I’m gone now.

That's when you catch dude out in public and :

[maddenboy]

6 hours ago, Mickey said:

 

I can think of dozens of reasons why it would take longer than 18 months. Discovery, depositions, video tape depositions, motions, expert witnesses, evidence availability, site investigation and on and on. Just juggling the schedules of the lawyers, the parties, the witnesses and everyone else involved can slow things to a crawl.

we dont have civil discovery in criminal cases.

 

there's no depositions and very little discovery.  Of course a higher priced lawyer will engage in endless motion play, seeking all kinds of ridiculous or reasonable things that the average public defender doesnt have time for.  (like, in this case, a speed survey, accident history kept by the government for that location, vehicle repair info, video from the chiefs' building, and motions to exclude all sorts of things, a motion for site view [packing all the jurors into a bus to go visit the site because its important for some reason or another])

 

And in crim, we dont worry about witness schedules much.  Here is your subpoena.  see you in court.

 

Otherwise, yes.  Court cases just take time.  even the routine ones.

 

Every victim in every case, i imagine, is irritated that the defendant's trial is not tomorrow morning.  But every case cant be tomorrow morning.

Edited April 25, 2022 by maddenboy

[Mickey]

5 hours ago, maddenboy said:

we dont have civil discovery in criminal cases.

 

there's no depositions and very little discovery.  Of course a higher priced lawyer will engage in endless motion play, seeking all kinds of ridiculous or reasonable things that the average public defender doesnt have time for.  (like, in this case, a speed survey, accident history kept by the government for that location, vehicle repair info, video from the chiefs' building, and motions to exclude all sorts of things, a motion for site view [packing all the jurors into a bus to go visit the site because its important for some reason or another])

 

And in crim, we dont worry about witness schedules much.  Here is your subpoena.  see you in court.

 

Otherwise, yes.  Court cases just take time.  even the routine ones.

 

Every victim in every case, i imagine, is irritated that the defendant's trial is not tomorrow morning.  But every case cant be tomorrow morning.

 

Missouri is one of a handful of states that allows unlimited depositions in criminal cases. There is plenty of discovery going on, especially where expert witnesses are concerned and in a case like this, there are always experts. Courts routinely change schedules for experts which is why so many are videotaped which takes forever to complete.  Caseloads backed up during covid related closures have to be a nightmare. It's a shame that it takes so long but I haven't heard any brilliant solutions.