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13 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

If Josh plays the way we all expect and stays injury free, he'll retire a Buffalo Bill.  It amazes me that you think we'd let him walk after this contract.

 

Are you thinking he's going to be unhappy and will want brighter lights of a bigger city?  Do you not pay attention to who Josh Allen is?

 


 

TPF, respectfully, that is your opinion and I would love it if it were the case.

 

As far the rest of it your amazement is on you, not me (😂 just kidding brother), but I mentioned the reasons why in my other posts, albeit just as examples.

 

and yes, people change, if for no other reason now we are seeing more and more images of Josh IN bright lights, big city, beautiful places.

 

He signed this contract long before his first was up, and it was really common sense for many reasons.   Absolutely he wants to stay here…

 

 

for now.

 

I am going to enjoy it like everyone, but the implication in the earlier posts by people was that he is going to stay here for the rest of career, which remains to be seen.

 

side note, why are you transplant bills fan?

 

 

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On 4/23/2022 at 8:16 AM, Chandler#81 said:

Kelly -if we’re being honest here- was a dick. Yes, he mended his ways but he was ridiculously cocky, arrogant and a douche for many years. 
This stated, I love him as my QB.

 

My mother who did not follow football and absolutely hated all the 90's Bills hype on TV, used to say this "Frank Reich he's our man, throw Jim Kelly in the garbage can."  I kid you not.  Her opinion was based solely on Jim's early years demeanor in Buffalo.  I remember Thurmon Thomas going on one of those locally produced weekly Bills shows and saying as much.  During the "Bickering Bills" era, Thomas all but named Kelly as the problem on the team.  To Jim's credit, he settled down and in and it was all love there after.

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7 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:


 

TPF, respectfully, that is your opinion and I would love it if it were the case.

 

As far the rest of it your amazement is on you, not me (😂 just kidding brother), but I mentioned the reasons why in my other posts, albeit just as examples.

 

and yes, people change, if for no other reason now we are seeing more and more images of Josh IN bright lights, big city, beautiful places.

 

He signed this contract long before his first was up, and it was really common sense for many reasons.   Absolutely he wants to stay here…

 

 

for now.

 

I am going to enjoy it like everyone, but the implication in the earlier posts by people was that he is going to stay here for the rest of career, which remains to be seen.

 

side note, why are you transplant bills fan?

 

 

Fair enough.  I just don't think you see teams let go of Elite QBs unless there are serious medical issues (Peyton Manning), character/legal issues (Deshaun Watson), long-lasting conflicts in terms of QB & organization (Wilson & Brady), or age (Brady & Manning).

 

Now, by the time Allen's current contract extension runs out he'll be 32.  We certainly can't discount the possibility of injury with the way he plays, but I don't think that's as likely as others might think because  of his natural physical build and the fact that I think we're going to start moving away from all the designed runs.  He won't be too old at 32, so that won't be a question.  Josh Allen's character is impeccable, so I can't see character or legal issues ever coming into play.

 

I know your reasoning earlier was all about "bright lights."  I just don't think it's a viable reason.  He's getting all the national attention he could ask for already in Buffalo.  And it's not like these guys don't travel or do commercials in the offseason.  I can't say that reason is completely impossible because anything's possible, but I'd say it'd be 1% or less that he wants to go play in a bigger market because Buffalo is too small.  That's actually rarely happened in NFL history, anyway.  QBs make their teams bigger market teams that are more nationally viable... see Brady, Mahomes, Burrow, Rodgers, Wilson (who didn't leave Seattle because it's a small market isolated in the upper northwest), etc.  Allen has already done the same for Buffalo over the last 2 years.

 

That leaves organizational friction as the most reasonable possibility.  But even there, as long as we have a healthyJosh Allen at QB, I would think we will be a playoff contender every single year and a Super Bowl contender most years.  That kind of success maintains organizational consistency in terms of the "big 3" in the coach, GM, and QB.  Again, I can't see that type of situation driving him out.  Never say never, but highly unlikely.

 

 

As for my name.  I moved to Hawai'i out of college when I was 23 from Rochester and have lived here for the last 18 years going on the rest of my life.  I'm a transplant to Hawai'i from the mainland.  Hence, my name.

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59 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Fair enough.  I just don't think you see teams let go of Elite QBs unless there are serious medical issues (Peyton Manning), character/legal issues (Deshaun Watson), long-lasting conflicts in terms of QB & organization (Wilson & Brady), or age (Brady & Manning).

 

Now, by the time Allen's current contract extension runs out he'll be 32.  We certainly can't discount the possibility of injury with the way he plays, but I don't think that's as likely as others might think because  of his natural physical build and the fact that I think we're going to start moving away from all the designed runs.  He won't be too old at 32, so that won't be a question.  Josh Allen's character is impeccable, so I can't see character or legal issues ever coming into play.

 

I know your reasoning earlier was all about "bright lights."  I just don't think it's a viable reason.  He's getting all the national attention he could ask for already in Buffalo.  And it's not like these guys don't travel or do commercials in the offseason.  I can't say that reason is completely impossible because anything's possible, but I'd say it'd be 1% or less that he wants to go play in a bigger market because Buffalo is too small.  That's actually rarely happened in NFL history, anyway.  QBs make their teams bigger market teams that are more nationally viable... see Brady, Mahomes, Burrow, Rodgers, Wilson (who didn't leave Seattle because it's a small market isolated in the upper northwest), etc.  Allen has already done the same for Buffalo over the last 2 years.

 

That leaves organizational friction as the most reasonable possibility.  But even there, as long as we have a healthyJosh Allen at QB, I would think we will be a playoff contender every single year and a Super Bowl contender most years.  That kind of success maintains organizational consistency in terms of the "big 3" in the coach, GM, and QB.  Again, I can't see that type of situation driving him out.  Never say never, but highly unlikely.

 

 

As for my name.  I moved to Hawai'i out of college when I was 23 from Rochester and have lived here for the last 18 years going on the rest of my life.  I'm a transplant to Hawai'i from the mainland.  Hence, my name.

 

 

Great post, TPF, and solid points.  Thank you, brother.

 

I hope Josh Allen is the longest tenured starting QB in Bills history and for the remainder of my life...not that I want to die, but if he QBs like somewhere between Aaron, Tom and Drew he could still be here in 2038 and I am not sure of my time table after that!

 

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22 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Thats strange.  Why did he go to NY ?

 

Why didn't he stay and party in Buffalo ?

Probably because he wanted to go out and not be the center of attention on his gfs birthday. 

 

Such a gentleman. 

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1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Thats strange.  Why did he go to NY ?

 

Why didn't he stay and party in Buffalo ?

Lol really? 

 

I'm as pro Buffalo as they come.. born and raised.. still here

 

But if I was a millionaire , I would absolutely go out to Los Angeles or New York City for my birthday or my girls

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