Floydboy12 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) I actually like Jackson quite a bit. Have thought with added experience he would soon be a better player than Levi. I’m anti bringing in aging vet. We seem to have brought in a guy a couple times the past few years that the consensus was they were washed. And guess what? They were washed. I think this staff does a great job getting the most out of secondary guys. But in my opinion that coaching seems to be more effective on young guys who are more eager and willing to be coached than older vets. Just go with Jackson and draft a guy in the first 4 rounds. Edited April 24, 2022 by Floydboy12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Joe Haden is the best fit but think he’s like Madonnas age now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 20 hours ago, NewEra said: We had the number 1 pass defense in the league even after Tre went out while having Dane and Levi as our starters. We got beat by a cheat code in Hill and a terrible coaching decision. Some of us realize that we don’t have to have 5 potential pro bowlers in the secondary. Our safety’s each make 10M- Tre makes 17M- we have the 2nd highest paid slot corner in the league. We’ve invested plenty on D. While our franchises best players ever has Spencer Brown, ryan Bates and Rodger Saffold pass blocking for him. But Cb2…..we need to invest all of our best assets into the D….not our franchises best player ever. We are aligned, to a point. This year’s AFC is STACKED with great QBs. The Bills cannot afford to lose a few winnable games early while Tre White is out or re-acclimating himself. unless you win your division, 11 wins might not guarantee a playoff spot. Now, if the Bills think that they can survive the first half season with Tre out/knocking off thenrust by playing Jackson and ???, go ahead and take a “developmental” CB in round 3 or later. I don’t disrespect different opinions, but I believe that rolling into the first month or more with Dane Jackson (when did fans get so comfortable with him?) and either Cam Lewis or some over-the-hill cheap vet has the potential to leave the Bills on the outside looking in for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: We are aligned, to a point. This year’s AFC is STACKED with great QBs. The Bills cannot afford to lose a few winnable games early while Tre White is out or re-acclimating himself. unless you win your division, 11 wins might not guarantee a playoff spot. Now, if the Bills think that they can survive the first half season with Tre out/knocking off thenrust by playing Jackson and ???, go ahead and take a “developmental” CB in round 3 or later. I don’t disrespect different opinions, but I believe that rolling into the first month or more with Dane Jackson (when did fans get so comfortable with him?) and either Cam Lewis or some over-the-hill cheap vet has the potential to leave the Bills on the outside looking in for the playoffs. I think we’ll be fine with Dane + a vet + a 2nd-3rd rd pick. If they take a cb in round one, I just hope that it’s Booth or Hill. Gordon or McDuffie….I’m ok with but not enamored with. I’ve never been against a corner….I just think we need more elite playmakers and really like some of our options @ 25. @ 57 we’ll be stuck with midgets (Austin or Robinson) or average joes like Metchie or tolbert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 6 hours ago, NewEra said: I think we’ll be fine with Dane + a vet + a 2nd-3rd rd pick. If they take a cb in round one, I just hope that it’s Booth or Hill. Gordon or McDuffie….I’m ok with but not enamored with. I’ve never been against a corner….I just think we need more elite playmakers and really like some of our options @ 25. @ 57 we’ll be stuck with midgets (Austin or Robinson) or average joes like Metchie or tolbert. The same goes for Corner's and I honestly believe the drop off in who you can get at Corner between Round 1 or Round 2 is worse than WR. My hope is that Alec Pierce is available at 57. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Floydboy12 said: I actually like Jackson quite a bit. Have thought with added experience he would soon be a better player than Levi. I’m anti bringing in aging vet. We seem to have brought in a guy a couple times the past few years that the consensus was they were washed. And guess what? They were washed. I think this staff does a great job getting the most out of secondary guys. But in my opinion that coaching seems to be more effective on young guys who are more eager and willing to be coached than older vets. Just go with Jackson and draft a guy in the first 4 rounds. The reason to sign a low-priced veteran is that you have one more layer of safety net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT BY SPIKES Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 12:15 AM, NewEra said: We had the number 1 pass defense in the league even after Tre went out while having Dane and Levi as our starters. We got beat by a cheat code in Hill and a terrible coaching decision. Some of us realize that we don’t have to have 5 potential pro bowlers in the secondary. Our safety’s each make 10M- Tre makes 17M- we have the 2nd highest paid slot corner in the league. We’ve invested plenty on D. While our franchises best players ever has Spencer Brown, ryan Bates and Rodger Saffold pass blocking for him. But Cb2…..we need to invest all of our best assets into the D….not our franchises best player ever. Very well said however drafting OL is simply not sexy enough for the average Bills fan. Any fat guy will do for the OL. You can find them at Duff's Anchor Bar or even Gabriel's Gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 36 minutes ago, HIT BY SPIKES said: Very well said however drafting OL is simply not sexy enough for the average Bills fan. Any fat guy will do for the OL. You can find them at Duff's Anchor Bar or even Gabriel's Gate. Thanks for the tell. It's always good for everyone to look in the mirror and be honest with themselves. Welcome to the community. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 McDermott’s greatest skill is finding free help in the secondary. No worries. One of two late rounds picks at corner will be serviceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 If we draft with our 1st pick, we’ll make it with Dane, the pick, and Tre. We don’t know at this point if Tre will be ready in September. It’s a leap to guess he’s not here until October. He could be back by training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 No need to rush to sign anyone right now. Their salary demands will only go down after the draft and the closer it gets to TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Floydboy12 said: I actually like Jackson quite a bit. Have thought with added experience he would soon be a better player than Levi. I’m anti bringing in aging vet. We seem to have brought in a guy a couple times the past few years that the consensus was they were washed. And guess what? They were washed. I think this staff does a great job getting the most out of secondary guys. But in my opinion that coaching seems to be more effective on young guys who are more eager and willing to be coached than older vets. Just go with Jackson and draft a guy in the first 4 rounds. What if they try it a little differently this time and bring in a younger CB that has to get over the injury prone label? There are ones out there like Buoye/K King/Callahan - that have been good CBs but haven't played through full seasons. After the draft I hope the FO acts quickly with their thought out price points and grabs one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 7 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: The same goes for Corner's and I honestly believe the drop off in who you can get at Corner between Round 1 or Round 2 is worse than WR. My hope is that Alec Pierce is available at 57. I disagree. This is a great group of corners being pegged to go rd 2-4 imo. Most of the WRs that were initially projected to fall to 57 (Pickens, Watson, Pierce, Moore) are now projected to go before 57 in most drafts that I see. The WR market has changed. Who are the guys left if those guys aren’t there? Austin, midget; Robinson, midget; Metchie- does nothing really well; Bell- slow; Shakir- lacks physical characteristics we tend go after. Maybe tolbert? But tolbert is 💩 name. of those guys, I’d go Austin or Shakir…. But they aren’t even locks to be there. I think the group of Emerson, Taylor, woolen, McCollum, jobe, Evans, Bryant, kendrick, Taylor Britt, Castro fields, armour Davis, josh Williams and Waller are all capable players in rd 2-3. There are some ballers there. I’m not saying that it’s the only route to go, I’m all in on Booth @ 25 but I don’t think he’s there. I think taking a guy like McDuffie (because of his length), Gordon, elam in rd 1 are similar to taking Dotson, Pickens, Watson in rd one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 He was good w Ramsey in Jacksonville 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floydboy12 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 9 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said: What if they try it a little differently this time and bring in a younger CB that has to get over the injury prone label? There are ones out there like Buoye/K King/Callahan - that have been good CBs but haven't played through full seasons. After the draft I hope the FO acts quickly with their thought out price points and grabs one. I would be ok with King. He’s been in the organization right? And I’m not sure there’s as much wear on the tires with him as Bouye. But for the most part I’m good with Jackson and a solid rookie till White returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/22/2022 at 6:19 PM, Special K said: Might as well sign EJ Gaines!! Came here just for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 5:49 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: Joe Haden is the best fit but think he’s like Madonnas age now Hey Madonna still got it man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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