The USS the Sullivans is Sinking (and I don’t want to swim)

[ChevyVanMiller]

Iconic Buffalo waterfront fixture is sinking into Lake Erie.

 

https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/uss-the-sullivans-appears-to-be-sinking-at-buffalo-and-erie-county-naval-and-military-park?_amp=true

[T&C]

6 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Iconic Buffalo waterfront fixture is sinking into Lake Erie.

 

https://www.wkbw.com/news/local-news/uss-the-sullivans-appears-to-be-sinking-at-buffalo-and-erie-county-naval-and-military-park?_amp=true

I saw an interview on it... they said they weren't going to let it sink. 

 

Probably listing due to all of the invasive mussels latching on to only one side. That was my cue! 

[Wacka]

For those who don't live in the area,  the Sullivans has been leaking for several years. The crew to repair the leaks was supposed to start working  on Monday. I think they were the ones that spotted the listing last night. 

The radio said there are 4 large industrial pumps being used today and are pumping more water out than incoming in.  The ships there in 4-5 feet of water under their keels. 

[Rockpile233]

They were running fundraisers to make needed repairs. The Pegulas should carve them off some of that stadium money to properly maintain an important piece of our history from WW2….
 

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by Rockpile233

[ALF]

They should have towed it to a dry dock last summer for repairs. 

 

Ralph was a Officer on a Navy ship in WWll , I bet his foundation would chip in if asked. They have about $1M raised for repairs already.

 

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/buffalo/top-stories/2017/05/11/legacy-of-ralph-wilson-jr--honored-at-naval-and-military-park

 

 

Edited April 15, 2022 by ALF

[Shake_My_Head]

Just swap names with the Croaker.

 

What?  Too soon?   

 

Yeah, I like that Wilson Foundation idea.   Get it done, Mary.

[BringBackFergy]

Thanks Army Corps of Engineers. 

[Warcodered]

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

That’s not a small leak. 

[coloradobillsfan]

On the aircraft carrier USS Intrepid moored in NYC they have wax pencil markings on the radar machine identifying other ships in the area and one of them is USS The Sullivans.  Not sure if they are original markings or not (there was protective plexiglass over it) but pretty neat either way.  

[Nextmanup]

I read the comments here before clicking the link.

 

Holy crap!  That thing is seriously listing to starboard!  I can't believe how bad it is!

 

At least the Little Rock appears to be OK.

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, T&C said:

I saw an interview on it... they said they weren't going to let it sink. 

 

Probably listing due to all of the invasive mussels latching on to only one side. That was my cue! 

Asian carp on one side. 😉😜😘 

 

Both ships have been in the mud, stuck for years.  Project Depth has been reduced to 18' since they got there. They haven't dredged it deep like it was in the past.  Little Rock is especially stuck in mud. Sullivans draft 17', Little Rock over 20' 

 

My first job with Corps was taking these soundings:

 

https://www.lrb.usace.army.mil/Library/Maps-and-Charts/

 

Last soundings were 5/2021 according to these charts

 

The red numbers are below project depth.

 

They're both totally in muck.  I guess it won't go totally under!

 

Sorry for poor image, better ones at that link above, .pdf...

 

Oh... Click on the "Buffalo River"... P1-5 to get those plates...

Edited April 15, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[ExiledInIllinois]

24 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

That’s not a small leak. 

I think they purposely flooded it to help it??? 

[BringBackFergy]

7 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Asian carp on one side. 😉😜😘 

 

Both ships have been in the mud, stuck for years.  Project Depth has been reduced to 18' since they got there. They haven't dredged it deep like it was in the past.  Little Rock is especially stuck in mud. Sullivans draft 17', Little Rock over 20' 

 

My first job with Corps was taking these soundings:

 

https://www.lrb.usace.army.mil/Library/Maps-and-Charts/

 

Last soundings were 5/2021 according to these charts

 

The red numbers are below project depth.

 

They're both totally in muck.  I guess it won't go totally under!

 

Sorry for poor image, better ones at that link above, .pdf...

 

Oh... Click on the "Buffalo River"... P1-5 to get those plates...

So your first job was to determine it was stuck and would sink. Then you sat back and waited? Thank you for your service. 
 

 

 

😄

[ExiledInIllinois]

32 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Thanks Army Corps of Engineers. 

If we dredged that channel deeper... It be in a deeper mess just be thankful BFLo Harbor isn't really a deep water port anymore! Like I noted above, project depth is only maintained to 18'... You'd really be cursing us if we maintained it deeper 

 

For now both boats are totally on bottom! That's a good thing, right?Except the muck that's probably pouring in!

1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said:

So your first job was to determine it was stuck and would sink. Then you sat back and waited? Thank you for your service. 
 

 

 

😄

How can it sink if it's on bottom.  Looks swamped to me! 😉 😜 

Edited April 15, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[CookieG]

Well, the good news is that it can't fully sink.  On the other hand, idk if it can afford to be lost.  There are only 4 Fletcher class destroyers left, 3 in the US and one in Greece. 

[Wacka]

USS The Sullivans # is 537. My dad was on the USS Miller (#535), a sister ship.

[ExiledInIllinois]

8 minutes ago, Wacka said:

USS The Sullivans # is 537. My dad was on the USS Miller (#535), a sister ship.

He was @ Pearl, right?

[Poleshifter]

Hi, Phil Swift here - for Flex-Goo...

 

[Wacka]

6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

He was @ Pearl, right?

He was on the Miller after  being stationed at Pearl Harbor (Korean War). Looked up info on the web and the Miller was overhauled in 49-50.  In 51-57  it was circumnavigating.  Later was in the Mediterranean and then in the Cuban blockade in 1961. Was scrapped in 65.

 

 He was on the Miller from Pearl to Alameda, took the train to Buffalo (for leave)then to NYC to get back on it and then to the West Indies and Guatonomo before he was discharged.

 

The Sullivans might have had met the same fate (scrap heap) if it mad not been named after them.

 

The local news had a woman who is the granddaughter of one of the brothers on and she is being kept up to date on the effort by the Naval and Serviceman's Park.

Edited April 15, 2022 by Wacka