Dwayne Haskins killed [Edit: struck by vehicle]

[BillsShredder83]

This is gross. It reflects on the atty and whoever sought to file (not on Dwayne) but citing poor maintenance on a truck not being able to stop on a crazy ass section of Florida thruway is complete BS.  This truckers life is already shattered from something that isnt his fault, but now hes going to get further dragged. Highly highly doubt he was able to mentally/legally drive truck after this, when it was wrong place/wrong time. So hes out his career, proli chasing the guy for $$ now, further dragging his name publically. Ughhhhh scumbag lawyers in this country

[Virgil]

Is this the first time this is being put out to the world?  
 

This is crazy. 

[Freddie's Dead]

The main purpose of this lawsuit is to proceed with discovery.  After that, they'll know whether they have grounds to continue the suit.  There are 14 parties named in the suit, if I remember right, and many of them are the suspects that perhaps drugged him.  The bar doesn't have much to worry about.  Florida's dram shop law only holds the bar liable if serving to a minor or a person with a known addiction.  Interested to see how this plays out.

Edited April 11, 2023 by Freddie's Dead

[boyst]

3 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

The main purpose of this lawsuit is to proceed with discovery.  After that, they'll know whether they have grounds to continue the suit.  There are 14 parties named in the suit, if I remember right, and many of them are the suspects that perhaps drugged him.  The bar doesn't have much to worry about.  Florida's dram shop law only holds the bar liable if serving to a minor or a person with a known addiction.  Interested to see how this plays out.

this lawsuit is just to shake some settlement money out of it. it won't be long before some major corporations are tied in for graft/settlement/harassment?

[Pecos Bills]

22 hours ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Yes, that is what i was thinking, a busy highway. 

 

Out of gas, yes, but call a service station to bring you some.

 

And then, with 25% of your blood alcohol, you could have them take you home too.

May want to revise that percentage by a couple decimals... a human would be dead with just 0.4% blood alcohol.  25% is closer to embalmed than drunk 😆

[london_bills]

Awful story.RIP 😔

[boyst]

36 minutes ago, Pecos Bills said:

May want to revise that percentage by a couple decimals... a human would be dead with just 0.4% blood alcohol.  25% is closer to embalmed than drunk 😆

you don't know Keith Whitley.  

[Dr Krentist]

5 hours ago, boyst said:

this lawsuit is just to shake some settlement money out of it. it won't be long before some major corporations are tied in for graft/settlement/harassment?

 

Looks like the rental car company and the state government are included in the lawsuit: "The wide-ranging lawsuit alleges negligence by the driver of the dump truck that struck Haskins, the state government entity tasked with maintaining the roadway, the company that provided his rental car, and the nightclub he attended hours before the crash, among other entities."

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/dwayne-haskins-wife-files-wide-145445771.html

[1ManRaid]

5 hours ago, boyst said:

this lawsuit is just to shake some settlement money out of it. it won't be long before some major corporations are tied in for graft/settlement/harassment?

 

34 minutes ago, Dr Krentist said:

 

Looks like the rental car company and the state government are included in the lawsuit: "The wide-ranging lawsuit alleges negligence by the driver of the dump truck that struck Haskins, the state government entity tasked with maintaining the roadway, the company that provided his rental car, and the nightclub he attended hours before the crash, among other entities."

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/dwayne-haskins-wife-files-wide-145445771.html

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

Edited April 11, 2023 by 1ManRaid

[RyanC883]

On 4/10/2023 at 1:29 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

This is gross. It reflects on the atty and whoever sought to file (not on Dwayne) but citing poor maintenance on a truck not being able to stop on a crazy ass section of Florida thruway is complete BS.  This truckers life is already shattered from something that isnt his fault, but now hes going to get further dragged. Highly highly doubt he was able to mentally/legally drive truck after this, when it was wrong place/wrong time. So hes out his career, proli chasing the guy for $$ now, further dragging his name publically. Ughhhhh scumbag lawyers in this country

 

I don’t know, depends how defective the breaks were.  Also likely not the drivers job but the company/maintenance vendors job to ensure breaks were correct.  This won’t bring back Haskins, but driving a large vehicle like that without appropriate breaks puts everyone on the highway in danger. 

[JoPoy88]

Crazy theory about the drugging/robbing. 
 

It’s been reported he was out partying the previous night - how does the attorney know his watch was stolen as opposed to lost? Have authorities recovered it?

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

I understand this but I also think it kind of sucks.  So the brakes were not serviced for a week and that likely had 0 to do with any of the events yet somone has to pay out they a** to defend this crap.

[1ManRaid]

27 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I understand this but I also think it kind of sucks.  So the brakes were not serviced for a week and that likely had 0 to do with any of the events yet somone has to pay out they a** to defend this crap.

 

I agree, but that's just how the system works.  "Don't hate the playa, hate the game" and all that.

 

But in the example you mentioned of the brakes missing a week's service, that is far from "likely 0 to do with" the hypothetical.  Industrial trucks are strictly regulated for a reason, and missed regular checkups DO get people killed.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

I agree, but that's just how the system works.  "Don't hate the playa, hate the game" and all that.

 

But in the example you mentioned of the brakes missing a week's service, that is far from "likely 0 to do with" the hypothetical.  Industrial trucks are strictly regulated for a reason, and missed regular checkups DO get people killed.

 

You know what gets people killed more than brakes 1 week out of service?  Running around a highway drunk off you ass.

[boyst]

2 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

this is everything wrong with this country right here.

 

you make stupid choices you win stupid prices.

 

Dwayne Haskins. FAFO.

He found out.

[1ManRaid]

47 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

 

You know what gets people killed more than brakes 1 week out of service?  Running around a highway drunk off you ass.

 

Of course, but the truck company isn't suing the Haskins estate lol.  If they were, they'd be throwing a similarly wide net.

 

45 minutes ago, boyst said:

this is everything wrong with this country right here.

 

you make stupid choices you win stupid prices.

 

Dwayne Haskins. FAFO.

He found out.

 

Not disagreeing with you there.  But if you'll permit me being a snarky bish for a moment, it's redundant to add "he found out" to FAFO. 😝

[Mr. WEO]

This lawsuit is alleging significant crimes occurred.  Why didn’t they bring this wild story to the cops last year?   What’s their evidence? 

[TailgateChef]

8 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

 

That's literally just how catastrophic injury cases work.  It's not malice or a targeted grift/harassment, no lawyer worth their weight wouldn't include EVERYONE even tangentially related to the incident in the lawsuit.  To not do so would be failing to act in the best interests of their client.  You never know what discovery might turn up.

 

(Hypothetical extreme examples of course)

Sold him a pack of gum earlier in the day?  You're getting sued.  Why?  Well discovery might expose that the newsstand you work at was being investigated after customers kept winding up in the hospital after lax health and safety measures led to rats peeing on the gum giving people a rare obscure condition that yadda yadda yadda...

 

You're a new junior assistant air filter technician at the truck company?  You're getting sued.  Discovery might expose that your recent hiring was because of someone else retiring, and incompetent management misfiled some paperwork leading to the retired hydraulics/brakes technician accidentally being replaced with an untrained air filter jockey, leading to the truck having it's regularly scheduled brake service delayed another week...

 

When you get one throw of a net to catch some fish, you throw as large a net as possible.

Well done.  Great explanation.

[Beck Water]

On 4/10/2023 at 11:29 AM, KDIGGZ said:

1 year later update...

Essentially Haskins' estate is suing the truck driver that hit him for the truck being in poor condition and that's why it didn't stop in time and additionally they believe Haskins was drugged in an attempted robbery and that's why he was walking around the middle of the highway. Just a very sad and bizarre story that just keeps getting weirder

 

 

It sounds as though they're trying to blame someone - anyone.

 

I don't find it hard to believe that a handful of cars might manage to brake and avoid a pedestrian but the driver of a vehicle with less maneuverability and more mass/longer braking distance might not.  Doesn't mean it's the dump truck driver's fault.  When you're a truck driver and you know you have blind spots, you can't just swerve into another lane without risk of hitting another vehicle/losing control.

 

Still a very sad ending to Haskins' life.

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

It sounds as though they're trying to blame someone - anyone.

 

I don't find it hard to believe that a handful of cars might manage to brake and avoid a pedestrian but the driver of a vehicle with less maneuverability and more mass/longer braking distance might not.  Doesn't mean it's the dump truck driver's fault.  When you're a truck driver and you know you have blind spots, you can't just swerve into another lane without risk of hitting another vehicle/losing control.

 

Still a very sad ending to Haskins' life.

Though it’s also possible the truck driver was negligently operating his vehicle too

On 4/10/2023 at 12:29 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

This is gross. It reflects on the atty and whoever sought to file (not on Dwayne) but citing poor maintenance on a truck not being able to stop on a crazy ass section of Florida thruway is complete BS.  This truckers life is already shattered from something that isnt his fault, but now hes going to get further dragged. Highly highly doubt he was able to mentally/legally drive truck after this, when it was wrong place/wrong time. So hes out his career, proli chasing the guy for $$ now, further dragging his name publically. Ughhhhh scumbag lawyers in this country

I mean, if accurate that his truck had wheel and brake issues and was carrying an unreasonable load - he may not be a murderer but also share some culpability in the situation. Without knowing any of the details, declaring otherwise confidently is simply projecting your own biases on the world