HereComesTheReignAgain Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 59 minutes ago, Airseven said: This is all pretty standard GM stuff. Beane isn't doing anything special other than manipulating the cap which is a job requirement these days. NFL salary cap is merely a suggestion. Yep, and a QBs job is just to throw the ball. Some are clearly better at their jobs than others though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Matt Haack mega-contract incoming 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure I think you should be able to. IMO if you match an RFA deal to keep a guy then for that season at least you should not be able to touch the contract. So in Bates's case the Bills should be prevented from restructuring until the opening of the 2023 league year otherwise it is tough for a team really to lure away an RFA. I don't think it's that big a deal, he doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. If the Bills cut him if he doesn't he's still getting paid his guarantee, the Bills take on a bigger cap than they would have, and Bates can go get signed somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Airseven said: This is all pretty standard GM stuff. Beane isn't doing anything special other than manipulating the cap which is a job requirement these days. NFL salary cap is merely a suggestion. Oh yeah, you’re gonna work out well here.. I can tell! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: You do have a point. We’re all happy that Bates is back, but for an RFA who’s trying to get the best contract it’s definitely a deterrent to other teams getting involved if the matching team can restructure the contract immediately. Exactly. It worked out for the Bills here, but if we were the Bears we'd be pissed. And I am not sure in principle it should work this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 I could have swore some "big time" Buffalo media personality said this wasnt allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 55 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I don't think it's that big a deal, he doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. If the Bills cut him if he doesn't he's still getting paid his guarantee, the Bills take on a bigger cap than they would have, and Bates can go get signed somewhere else. But it might prevent teams from trying to lure away RFAs if they think it is impossible to ever structure the deal in a way the original club can't match and then simply restructure. Which in the long run works against RFAs getting paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Can a cornerback signing be far behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bradberry trade possible. That was my thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Airseven said: This is all pretty standard GM stuff. Beane isn't doing anything special other than manipulating the cap which is a job requirement these days. NFL salary cap is merely a suggestion. ahem. This take is so uninformed for me it borders on myopic. His leadership and business saavy coupled with his abilities to assemble the team we have now and maintain the roster like he has......standard GM stuff Riiight. Not buying it. Edited April 8, 2022 by muppy 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 This move really has nothing to do with the Bills matching the Bears offer, stop trying to turn in into something other than freeing up cap for this season. It's still 4yrs, $17mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 8, 2022 Author Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Billsbuff said: Browns fans think Denzel Ward could be on the move. In the final year of his contract and they can't pay him for a new deal. Might cost a 1st or 2nd (much more likely the 2nd). The Bills already have one high priced corner. They don’t need Ward and could not/should not pay him or give up a rookie deal to take him on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsbuff Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: The Bills already have one high priced corner. They don’t need Ward and could not/should not pay him or give up a rookie deal to take him on. Again, I agree. But Ward is an UFA next season and the Browns might try and move him for cheap (pick wise). Odds are he stays on the Browns and the contract runs out, but he would be an interesting rental to a contender that needs a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: Matt Haack mega-contract incoming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There’s a signing/trade coming. That would not surprise me. I do think if he signs somebody, it'll be a cornerback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Cool, now bring in Gilmore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Ryan Poles handling of that offer sheet was really poor.........very disappointed in the Canandaigua guy. Not that he'd be the first bad GM with WNY ties........there are and have been a bunch of em'...........but was hoping he'd do well in the NFC. Thought he would take a player from a team that needed him by putting $250K aav on top of an otherwise Bills friendly deal? As I said before..........very reminiscent of Marv Levy doing the same as GM years ago..........fake hustle........there are reasons you don't see many GM's do that............it's bad form........plenty of UFA's out there.........if you want a RFA that bad then go for it..........don't dick around and run up prices. That's amateur hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 I really don't understand the whole cap thing very much, what's the difference when salaries are converted into bonuses? I know it reduces the cap, but why does it make any difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Son Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: I really don't understand the whole cap thing very much, what's the difference when salaries are converted into bonuses? I know it reduces the cap, but why does it make any difference? Bonus is then allocated over the life of the contract lowering the hit in the current year. Edited April 8, 2022 by SWATeam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They already have plenty for that. There is no need to push more money into the future unless they’re adding someone. So I am curious. How do they account for things like performance incentives that are earned at the end of a given season. I assume that those count towards the cap, so do you have to hold the cap space at the beginning of the season, or do you have to make room at the end if you don't have the space available? (p.s. I'm asking you because you seem to be on top of the cap dynamics, so thanks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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