Pounding the table for Christian Watson at 25

[TheBrownBear]

Honestly, looks like a workout warrior bust to me.  Wouldn't use anything earlier than a 3rd rounder on him.

[YoloinOhio]

Random but I can’t stand the draft season cliche phrases “pound the table”, “sprint to the podium”, etc…  only 24 more days!

[Stank_Nasty]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Random but I can’t stand the draft season cliche phrases “pound the table”, “sprint to the podium”, etc…  only 24 more days!

are we allowed to "backup the Brinks truck" during free agency at least?

[MrEpsYtown]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Random but I can’t stand the draft season cliche phrases “pound the table”, “sprint to the podium”, etc…  only 24 more days!

I am pretty sure i have pounded a few tables, but never sprinted to a podium. Actually sprinting would likely snap my achilles like a rubber band at this point

[LeGOATski]

Just now, longtimebillsfan said:

With Josh's arm, Watson could be our version of Gronk.

That's an odd comparison 

[Putin]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

The people downplaying the need at corner will be the FIRST ones next season bitching about how we cant stop the pass......book it

Bean must have something on the back burner I just don’t believe that he would rely solely on the draft to get that fixed , unless it’s a big trade up in the draft?

[whorlnut]

26 minutes ago, NewEra said:

This is how I see it.  You have to take into consideration: Diggs’ future contract.  Davis’s future contract.  Crowder on a 1 year cheap deal. Knox a FA next year.  It’s about keeping the cabinets stocked with playmakers and building around 17.  It’s not always about what’s best for the upcoming season.  

This. Continuing to give Allen cheap vets on one year deals isn’t the way to build this offense. At some point, a conscious effort needs to be made in getting guys that will be here for a while.

 

You’re correct…we don’t know what will happen with Diggs. I could see that getting a little ugly if they don’t figure out a raise for him. And if they do that, then they might not be able to pay Davis. I think it will come down to one or the other. We need another stud on the cheap that will be affordable for 4-5 years. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Just now, Stank_Nasty said:

are we allowed to "backup the Brinks truck" during free agency at least?

Never did that either. Hollywood makes being a Brinks driver seem super exciting and dangerous when in reality its probably just eating donuts and delivering cash to attractive bank tellers who majored in English or speech pathology and have to settle for the bank job for now. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Vickveto said:

Calvin Johnson

Andre Johnson

Vincent Jackson 

Matt Jones

 

 

I think the comp I've settled on is Vincent Jackson. 

 

Jackson was basically unrecruited..........went to Northern Colorado because they were the only one to offer a scholarship........somehow excelled as a punt and kick returner despite his size........had the size and speed but very little refinement to his game entering the NFL.........entered the league at 22 as opposed to the 20-21 year olds who were 4-5 star prospects..........and had a long career of big production as primarily a deep threat.  

 

Watson is a little lighter and considerably faster than Jackson but there are a lot of similarities.    Seems like a smart, well spoken guy like Jackson was as well.    Jackson ended up being a second round steal but his rise in the draft process was very similar to what we are seeing with Watson........early on Jackson seemed like a late round flyer kinda' guy and rose all the way up to second round.

 

I was a little concerned with Watson's narrow frame..........I was thinking more along the lines of Marquez Valdes-Scantling.........but I think he's going to be much better than the less than physical MVS.    Although MVS has gotten paid too.

[Jay_Fixit]

1 hour ago, Georgie said:

I like him but think CB is a bigger need. If he lasts until Bills 2nd round pick, I would be all over that

Good thing drafts aren’t for need. They’re for BPA.

[billybrew1]

I’m with the poster. We’ll NEVER get a chance to get talent like that in the draft again so long as Josh Allen is on this team again. I think it’s a no brainer to take him. The corners aren’t worth it at 25, no way, no how…..

He’ll look fantastic in a Bills uniform and will replace Diggs as Allen’s all-time #1….

[H2o]

I'm telling you all, this guy wouldn't be BPA until the 3rd or 4th Round. Beane and McDermott aren't taking a guy, in the 1st Round especially for God's sake, who only put up three 100 yard games in his ENTIRE COLLEGE CAREER against FCS competition. He's nothing more than a tall kid who's fast in spandex. 

[mathja]

The thing that jumps out in his highlight videos is how quickly he turns and runs up field after making a catch. That transition is quicker than most receivers I’ve watched.

[whorlnut]

15 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Good thing drafts aren’t for need. They’re for BPA.

Boom.  100%. This idea of needing to make sure we draft a corner in one cause it’s our “biggest need” is outrageous to me. Beane has never operated like that and sure as heck isnt starting now. 

2 minutes ago, mathja said:

The thing that jumps out in his highlight videos is how quickly he turns and runs up field after making a catch. That transition is quicker than most receivers I’ve watched.

It’s funny you say that, because that’s one of the biggest knocks on Chris Olave. He’s great at making plays but doesn’t really create after the catch. Sound like someone we just released?

Edited April 4, 2022 by whorlnut

[Andrew Son]

I’m a fan.  Seems to have an incredible ability to separate deep.  Would be deadly with Josh.

[Shake_My_Head]

4 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

There's a difference between weaving through DBs after the catch and breaking off sharp in-breaking routes and comebacks (necessary for >50% of an effective route tree).

That may be true for a slot WR (aka Beasley-type) or freaks like Tyreek Hill, where they win with short area quickness.  But it's less so for 6'4" outside guys like Watson (or the GOAT analog for this kind of wideout, Moss, or Vincent Jackson, Mike Evans, Brandon Marshall, etc. ) who win with physical mis-match ability, IMO.

 

I'm not saying Watson is a finished product, or would even be good in year one.  But he strikes me as a very high ceiling "ten year" kind of guy with the intangibles and intelligence to be a terrific WR with a QB like Josh.       

[billybrew1]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

The people downplaying the need at corner will be the FIRST ones next season bitching about how we cant stop the pass......book it

Not me…. Sign a vet, get a couple corners later…..The Bills know corners. Where to find them, how to train them and get them ready for the beginning of the season. If the Bills take a corner in round one I’ll be happy because the Bills think he’s worth it, if they don’t I’ll be happier with Christian Watson and a couple corners later on.

My big wish for this draft is the we get a corner, a OG and a WR by the end of round three (along with the vet corner).

[longtimebillsfan]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

That's an odd comparison 

Big target with good hands?

 

Yea that is really a stretch comparing to Gronk.

 

Good post!

 

 

[NY Nole]

Movin the Chains show on Sirius NFL Radio had Bills taking Watson in their most recent first-round Mock Draft (2.0) last Friday. Jim Miller (former QB for Bears and others) made the pick for the Bills and said it came down to him or Dotson. Said he thought about CB — as Booth was still on their board - but he was scared off about the injury. I was not aware Booth is coming off injury. 

 

IMO — wouldn’t be disappointed with Watson in the first, but I also think that OL is very much in the cards along with CB. I’m hoping a tackle can be had early — as the Bills have no swing tackle — unless you think Tommy Doyle takes a big leap.

[LEBills]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Never heard of Matt Jones but the other 3 were pretty good!

Matt Jones was a QB at Arkansas that changed positions to WR for the draft. Went first round to the Jags and busted.