Bills eyeing Gilmore…Hmmmm 🤔

[Peace Frog]

3 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Brady wouldn’t be very good at corner 

I saw what you did there.

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

You’re forgetting about that playoff game/super bowl in which his defense slowed down the greatest show on snow and stole a Lombardi from us.  Oh yeah…he wasn’t the head coach.  
 

how many Super Bowls has Parcells won without Belichick?  
 

the notion he’s only good because of Brady is one of the worst takes in sports. 
 

If you don’t think he’s the best ever, I get it…..but he’s one of the best football minds ever. There is no doubt 

Not forgetting anything. Like his performance with the Browns and now post Brady in guessing he's scratching .500.

 

 

He has had a few years where he hit the cream of the crop coming to him because they were great but that wasn't because of him. 

 

Similar how players want to play with allen now and not because they have high praise for McD.

[hondo in seattle]

9 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

No more Gilmore 

please.  
 

he was overrated and IIRC said some bad 💩 when he left. 
 

His ego was also overinflated 

 

He was an Un Happy Gilmore 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2016/06/14/gilmore-grudgingly-reports-for-bills-mandatory-practices/85892150/

 

 

He wasn't happy on the Whaley-Rex Bills.  

 

This is an entirely different organization.  

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Not forgetting anything. Like his performance with the Browns and now post Brady in guessing he's scratching .500.

 

 

He has had a few years where he hit the cream of the crop coming to him because they were great but that wasn't because of him. 

 

Similar how players want to play with allen now and not because they have high praise for McD.

Tough to win with a washed up Bernie, Mike Tomzack, Vinny T, washed up Mark Rypien.  
 

He was able to go 11-5 with Vinny throwing 16 TDs and 18 Ints.  
 

Marv levy was garbage until he had JK.  There are several instances of coaches sucking with sucky QBs and stacking win with a good QB.  Most coaches do suck when they have crappy QBs.  

Edited April 4, 2022 by NewEra

[wppete]

Psss on Gilmore. He seems like a very troubled person. No headaches or distractions, 

[The Wiz]

21 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Tough to win with a washed up Bernie, Mike Tomzack, Vinny T, washed up Mark Rypien.  
 

He was able to go 11-5 with Vinny throwing 16 TDs and 18 Ints.  
 

Marv levy was garbage until he had JK.  There are several instances of coaches sucking with sucky QBs and stacking win with a good QB.  Most coaches do suck when they have crappy QBs.  

You kinda made the point for me there. 

 

You can be a great defensive minded coach but if you don't have the offense to back it up it doesn't matter most of the time. 

 

I don't doubt he is a great defensive minded coach. But he did wasnt the reason he has the record he has.

[Southern_Bills]

Who cares he left, we were not a good team then. No one should be expected to play for a team going nowhere. 

 

I'd welcome him back, he wasn't as good as people made out but he would still be a great veteran for the right price.

[Putin]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

Who cares he left, we were not a good team then. No one should be expected to play for a team going nowhere. 

 

I'd welcome him back, he wasn't as good as people made out but he would still be a great veteran for the right price.

The only way he’s coming to Buffalo is if Bean gives him more $$$$ then any other team 

that’s it , it’s all about money for him 

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:

Who cares he left, we were not a good team then. No one should be expected to play for a team going nowhere. 

 

I'd welcome him back, he wasn't as good as people made out but he would still be a great veteran for the right price.

Yes it’s called being under contract and anybody that doesn’t want to play with the team drafted them can go ***** themselves

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

20 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

He wasn't happy on the Whaley-Rex Bills.  

 

This is an entirely different organization.  

while true,

it still doesn’t excuse giving up on plays and other traits that  followed him beyond Buffalo 

 

https://nesn.com/2021/10/stephon-gilmore-patriots-exit-about-one-of-two-things/amp/

 

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the trading of Gilmore to the Carolina Panthers is a cost-cutting move that hurts the Patriots on the field. At worst, it’s gross mismanagement of a disgruntled asset. The truth probably is somewhere in the middle.

But that rabbit hole is for a different story.

 

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The significant meat on that bone — Gilmore’s age and injury concerns; the reported contract dispute; Belichick’s mounting general manager misfires — must be hit from multiple angles.

 

 

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That already has generated debate over Gilmore’s true feelings about the Patriots. Why wouldn’t he just play for the same money for the Patriots, rather than the Panthers?

 

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Does Gilmore, in fact, hate New England so muchthat he’s willing to make the same money for one franchise that he was unwilling to accept from the Patriots? (This theory operates under the assumption that Rapoport’s initial reporting was inaccurate, and that Gilmore actually wouldn’t play without a raise.)

 

[Southern_Bills]

4 minutes ago, Putin said:

The only way he’s coming to Buffalo is if Bean gives him more $$$$ then any other team 

that’s it , it’s all about money for him 

 

If that's the case it's a hard pass, I know he was all about the money, but usually players see the big picture when decline in skills start happening. 

4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Yes it’s called being under contract and anybody that doesn’t want to play with the team drafted them can go ***** themselves

 

That's just emotional, he wasn't under contract. He finished the contract and left in free agency. 

 

That's like saying you're an engineer for a company that is failing and your offered a job at a successful company for more pay and you're not supposed to take it because of "loyalty". 

 

Just doesn't work that way.

[NewEra]

10 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

You kinda made the point for me there. 

 

You can be a great defensive minded coach but if you don't have the offense to back it up it doesn't matter most of the time. 

 

I don't doubt he is a great defensive minded coach. But he did wasnt the reason he has the record he has.

I made your point if you completely overlooked the fact that he went 11-5 with Vinny throwing 16 TDs and 18 ints.  

[Magnum Force]

Gilmore, Haden or Xavier Rhodes?  Which one

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, Magnum Force said:

Gilmore, Haden or Xavier Rhodes?  Which one

I’ll take gilmore but he’s also going to cost the most imo. He might double what the other guys make.  Might triple one of them.  

[Saxum]

3 hours ago, Logic said:

You must be mistaken, Scott. I’ve never been wrong in my life. Not once.

 

Since Scott also has never been wrong and you do not agree with him this means the laws of the universe are being bent.

 

The two of you will need to have a "spoon competition".

Whomever can bend the spoon furthest is the winner.

He does have the advantage being stunt double for Blue Raja.

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

I’ll take gilmore but he’s also going to cost the most imo. He might double what the other guys make.  Might triple one of them.  

It’ll be worth it if they can fit him in.

[Magnum Force]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

It’ll be worth it if they can fit him in.

I just can’t see us fitting him at what his market value will be.  I don’t see it happening myself. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Magnum Force said:

I just can’t see us fitting him at what his market value will be.  I don’t see it happening myself. 

Why? 1 year deal. They have the ability to.

[Magnum Force]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Why? 1 year deal. They have the ability to.

At 31 years old… I think he would want a longer term deal and has the resume to get it. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Magnum Force said:

At 31 years old… I think he would want a longer term deal and has the resume to get it. 

Give it to him. I think if the Bills decided Edmunds isn’t getting a contract then there is room for another 10+ million a year deal. Poyer is another player they have to make a decision on. If they go young at those positions next year that opens the door to spend elsewhere on defense. Obviously the Oliver contract coming in 2 years but they have future room for another large contract.