Josh back working with Palmer..

[In Summary]

22 hours ago, MJS said:

I figured Darnold and Mayfield would be gone by the time the Bills picked, so that left me wanting Rosen. I didn't want Jackson because of the Tyrod years. I just wanted an NFL passer, not a running back who could also pass sometimes.

 

The media told me not to like Allen, so I didn't. I don't watch college, so I gain my opinions from the talking heads and watching highlights and stuff. They convinced me that he was too erratic and that nobody could ever overcome a sub 60% college completion percentage. They also talked up Rosen a lot.

The media also fell in love with Rosen's apparent social pedigree and "intelligence". 

[Magox]

11 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Allen might have one of the greatest work ethics I've ever seen in a football player. Who else even compares? Bruce Smith? I know he famously stayed in game shape year round.

He’s dedicated to his craft, no doubt.  However, he hasn’t been a fitness freak or for that matter that dedicated to having a great diet.    Allen has alluded to this and it looks like something that he is considering in regards to having a well-balanced diet and O believe he said he was considering a full time chef to help him with these goals.

 

I think he needs to do this soon if he wants to extend his career, Brady did it and I think it would be smart of Allen to emulate it as well.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

51 minutes ago, In Summary said:

The media also fell in love with Rosen's apparent social pedigree and "intelligence". 

 

Say Wat?

 

Rosen was mercilessly criticized and put down in the media for his off-field antics that indicated a certain degree of entitlement (setting up a hot tub in his room) and willingness to be abrasive with his personal political views (wearing a F*** president's name cap).  There were also rumors and questions about his intangibles - his leadership in the locker room and abilities to get along with others.

 

Where he was praised, was not for his "social pedigree", but for his actual on-field football performance with St John Bosco (5 star recruit) then with UCLA, where he set records for 300 yd games and at one point, led the nation in various football stats.

 

If his actual football skills and football IQ had translated to the NFL, I'm sure he'd still be criticized and dissected for his off-field deportment, fair or unfair.

 

But they didn't - the day of the relatively immobile pocket passer who can throw beautifully when on-platform, may be done

[Sierra Foothills]

On 4/1/2022 at 5:30 AM, TBBills said:

He waited this long to start training again?!?!? That is why he doesn't have a 500 yard passing game yet.

 

Right? Gets the big contract and immediately puts it in cruise control. Maybe Josh is the veteran they're lookin to unload to move up in the draft and create cap space?

 

On 4/1/2022 at 5:58 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

"Got any vacancies, Mr. Palmer?!"

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EDIT:  Rosen be like "Student?!  Eff no, I'm here as a co-instructor!!"

 

Darnold: "Oh my God is that a ghost?!?!?!??"

 

Palmer: "Sam we've already gone over this... that's the Z receiver."

 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

On 4/1/2022 at 8:58 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

"Got any vacancies, Mr. Palmer?!"

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EDIT:  Rosen be like "Student?!  Eff no, I'm here as a co-instructor!!"

Rosen should be very familiar by now with breaking down his throwing mechanics…why not teach others the same things coaches are trying to pour into him?  You know what they  say about those that can’t…

[Mr. WEO]

On 4/1/2022 at 8:58 AM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

"Got any vacancies, Mr. Palmer?!"

*
EDIT:  Rosen be like "Student?!  Eff no, I'm here as a co-instructor!!"

 

On 4/1/2022 at 9:13 AM, chris heff said:

I was right about these two, really didn’t want either. I’ve been wrong, I liked EJ. It’s one thing for us to get things wrong, but how is that so many professionals can be so wrong?

 

How indeed.

 

Let's here from......Jordan Palmer!!

 

"I've said this a bunch, Sam is one of the best young quarterbacks in this league," Palmer recently said on an appearance on ESPN's NFL Live. "He has everything. You talk to smart coaches around the league, Sam is one of those guys that they put in a different category. It's just going to be a matter of time for him.

 

"Last offseason, he had an unbelievable offseason," he said. "He laid out a plan with his coaching staff and he checked every box. Then the mono thing hit, there was a new coaching staff, so with Sam, I don't think that he has to make any drastic changes to what he's doing. I think it's just going to be a matter of time until things click. People are healthy, guys know the system and he'll explode.

 

and...

 

"I've been around Josh (Rosen) since HS. When I look at Josh, from a talent perspective, talking to a lot of folks, it's pretty unanimous across the board, this guy mechanically is really clean. I think Josh is going to be a phenomenal player."

 

"Jordan explained that when Carson Palmer studied Rosen film before the 2018 draft, he came away comparing him to Tom Brady in how he is decisive, gets rid of the football quickly and pushes the ball down the field."

 

lol--the Jordan Palmer hype machine (here) never rests.

[Warcodered]

52 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

lol--the Jordan Palmer hype machine (here) never rests.

Ended up reading your post not paying attention to who it was, got to this point and "Hmm I bet I know who this is." scroll up "Nailed it."

 

I'm sure Jordan Palmer is sorry for kicking your dog/sleeping with your wife/whatever it is he did to you, really need to let this go.

 

Also I'm not sure how what the first thread talking about Josh starting to work with him this offseason constitutes a never resting hype machine.

Josh works with Palmer every year, and he's been really good the last two years so I don't see why he should change his routine now.

[Mr. WEO]

35 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Ended up reading your post not paying attention

 

You should have stopped at this...

 

I was clearly responding to the post that I quoted, re: Darnold, Rosen.  

 

 

[Warcodered]

4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

You should have stopped at this...

 

I was clearly responding to the post that I quoted, re: Darnold, Rosen.  

 

 

I was just commenting on what literally happened I was reading the comment and the author was just out of sight on the screen and when I got to the part at the end it just clicked "You know who has a weird hate-on for Palmer? @Mr. WEO I wonder if it's him." scroll up. "Yahtzee!"

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

How indeed.

 

Let's here from......Jordan Palmer!!

 

"I've said this a bunch, Sam is one of the best young quarterbacks in this league," Palmer recently said on an appearance on ESPN's NFL Live. "He has everything. You talk to smart coaches around the league, Sam is one of those guys that they put in a different category. It's just going to be a matter of time for him.

 

"Last offseason, he had an unbelievable offseason," he said. "He laid out a plan with his coaching staff and he checked every box. Then the mono thing hit, there was a new coaching staff, so with Sam, I don't think that he has to make any drastic changes to what he's doing. I think it's just going to be a matter of time until things click. People are healthy, guys know the system and he'll explode.

 

and...

 

"I've been around Josh (Rosen) since HS. When I look at Josh, from a talent perspective, talking to a lot of folks, it's pretty unanimous across the board, this guy mechanically is really clean. I think Josh is going to be a phenomenal player."

 

"Jordan explained that when Carson Palmer studied Rosen film before the 2018 draft, he came away comparing him to Tom Brady in how he is decisive, gets rid of the football quickly and pushes the ball down the field."

 

lol--the Jordan Palmer hype machine (here) never rests.

Perhaps it's partly attributable to the fact his quotes regarding Darnold and Rosen were early in their careers.  After your last car purchase, I am sure your salesman shook your hand and said you were a great guy, then thought to himself "Thank goodness that rectum's gone." when you took delivery of the vehicle.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Perhaps it's partly attributable to the fact his quotes regarding Darnold and Rosen were early in their careers.  After your last car purchase, I am sure your salesman shook your hand and said you were a great guy, then thought to himself "Thank goodness that rectum's gone." when you took delivery of the vehicle.

The Darnold one is going into year 3 with that Mono reference. Palmer talks up all of his clients, at the same time he does say Josh is the most talented player he's ever seen at the position.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I was just commenting on what literally happened I was reading the comment and the author was just out of sight on the screen and when I got to the part at the end it just clicked "You know who has a weird hate-on for Palmer? @Mr. WEO I wonder if it's him." scroll up. "Yahtzee!"

 

I got that, yeah...

 

Anyway, I don't "hate-on" anyone because I was in my teens many decades ago, when that might have been a thing. 

 

Annual Jordan Palmer threads, in my opinion, are odd.   Clearly, the guy is a shrewd businessman, I do give him that.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

The Darnold one is going into year 3 with that Mono reference. Palmer talks up all of his clients, at the same time he does say Josh is the most talented player he's ever seen at the position.

Agreed.  I doubt Palmer would consider it 'good business' to come out and emphasize a player's weak points in his critique of the player when talking to the press.

[Mr. WEO]

4 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

Perhaps it's partly attributable to the fact his quotes regarding Darnold and Rosen were early in their careers.  After your last car purchase, I am sure your salesman shook your hand and said you were a great guy, then thought to himself "Thank goodness that rectum's gone." when you took delivery of the vehicle.

 

lol, "rectum?...damn near killed 'em"

 

Well yeah, that's the point:  many were "wrong" when they assessed those guys early in their careers.. I thought it was interesting that someone would post "how can so many professionals be so wrong"...in a Jordan Palmer thread, when...

 

...one of those "professionals" is none other than Palmer.  But he may have just been pumping clients of his.

 

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

I got that, yeah...

 

Anyway, I don't "hate-on" anyone because I was in my teens many decades ago, when that might have been a thing. 

 

Annual Jordan Palmer threads, in my opinion, are odd.   Clearly, the guy is a shrewd businessman, I do give him that.

So it's gone from a never resting hype machine to an annual thread...huh neat. But honestly this thread is only vaguely about him it's mostly about Josh doing his offseason training routine which happens to involve Palmer.

[Mr. WEO]

7 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

The Darnold one is going into year 3 with that Mono reference. Palmer talks up all of his clients, at the same time he does say Josh is the most talented player he's ever seen at the position.

 

We all say that--without being paid to do so.

Just now, Warcodered said:

So it's gone from a never resting hype machine to an annual thread...huh neat. But honestly this thread is only vaguely about him it's mostly about Josh doing his offseason training routine which happens to involve Palmer.

 

 

lol for real?

[Warcodered]

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

We all say that--without being paid to do so

At this point Palmer gets more out of being associated with Josh than the other way around, not sure him being paid to work with him has much to do with it anymore. Also we're on a Bills message board of course we're saying that.

7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

lol for real?

Yes, have you not read the thread? He was only mentioned in like the 4th sentence of the OP and only in reference to what they thought Josh might be working on. The entire rest of the first page is like 90% about Josh.

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

At this point Palmer gets more out of being associated with Josh than the other way around, not sure him being paid to work with him has much to do with it anymore. Also we're on a Bills message board of course we're saying that.

Yes, have you not read the thread? He was only mentioned in like the 4th sentence of the OP and only in reference to what they thought Josh might be working on. The entire rest of the first page is like 90% about Josh.

 

 

Not sure what being paid to work with it has to do with it?  You somehow say this after reading his comments on previous clients. 

 

Again, the guy is a businessman.  Him posting (and Bills fan boards reposting) his association with his top client (left) is good for business. 

 

Keep reading, begin with the title.

 

 

[Doc]

Palmer has been the most instrumental person in Josh's success, after Josh of course.  His issues were with his mechanics, specifically correcting them and making them consistent.  The mental stuff, which the other guys lack, was always there and not something Palmer could give him, or the other guys.

[Warcodered]

9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Not sure what being paid to work with it has to do with it?  You somehow say this after reading his comments on previous clients. 

 

Again, the guy is a businessman.  Him posting (and Bills fan boards reposting) his association with his top client (left) is good for business. 

 

Keep reading, begin with the title.

 

 

Read the actual thread, there's essentially been no real focus on Palmer until you made it a thing...so congratulations I guess, never suspected that this was all a subtle ruse by Palmer's #1 fan.