clearwater cadet Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Glad to see the Bills and NYS have come to agreement, but there seems to be a lot of opposition from down state law makers. Is this stadium deal a lock, or can the NYS assembly still blow the whole thing up? Being a bills fan for 45 year, I'm always worried how we seem to get close and at the last minute and there's always something the screws us in the end. I guest I'm just conditioned to expect the worse when to come to the Bills.
Turbo44 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: Glad to see the Bills and NYS have come to agreement, but there seems to be a lot of opposition from down state law makers. Is this stadium deal a lock, or can the NYS assembly still blow the whole thing up? Being a bills fan for 45 year, I'm always worried how we seem to get close and at the last minute and there's always something the screws us in the end. I guest I'm just conditioned to expect the worse when to come to the Bills. A lock - politicians like to b*tch about it for political reasons but would never cut their throats by taking a stand 2
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 There’s always opposition for tax dollars being used for stadiums. It’s pretty close to a lock though 1
clearwater cadet Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 I actually thought the state did well seeing Pegula is throwing in 500 mil and will pay for any extras, and the State will now own the stadium.
Albany,n.y. Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 The NY papers & the Albany Times Union newspaper are crying like they just got carjacked. I hope the decision makers don't block it. The papers keep ignoring the fact that the Bills owners are TENANTS and will not own the stadium.
GottaRun Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 With Seneca Nation releasing $564 million in payments to the state I'd say the stadium is a lock "Gov. Kathy Hochul tweeted Tuesday night that the money will go toward the new Bills stadium. “We’ve secured $564 million in payments owed to State & local governments,” Hochul wrote. “These funds were generated in Western New York & will support the State’s share of the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Remaining funds will go directly to Western New York communities.”" 3 1
davefan66 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 They may huff and puff against the stadium, but last weeks announcement would not have been made if they didn’t have the votes.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: Glad to see the Bills and NYS have come to agreement, but there seems to be a lot of opposition from down state law makers. Is this stadium deal a lock, or can the NYS assembly still blow the whole thing up? Being a bills fan for 45 year, I'm always worried how we seem to get close and at the last minute and there's always something the screws us in the end. I guest I'm just conditioned to expect the worse when to come to the Bills. Likely what would happen is all the representatives from Western NY, as far east as Rochester would get together and agree they will not vote to pass anything including the yearly budget and for a long while anything for downstate. Plus any democrats will get alot of pressure from the Governor and also from Shummer to pass it. Believe the democrats hold the majority so that is also in favor of passing. I'm sure there's things they want downstate that would never pass without support at some level from western NY
The Wiz Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, clearwater cadet said: I actually thought the state did well seeing Pegula is throwing in 500 mil and will pay for any extras, and the State will now own the stadium. And on a 30 year lease. The current lease cost the Bills 800k per year. I would expect that number to be higher on this lease. Edited March 31, 2022 by The Wiz
clearwater cadet Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 I saw this today on bills daily, State Assembly is expected to stay today and *potentially* leave Albany tomorrow. No one expects a budget deal., this wasn't specific to the bills, but saw the NY papers and Albany paper bashing the crap out of us. 1
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 If the stadium was being built in Westchester, the state would be kicking in 1.5B and the downstate politicians would be crying that it is not enough. 1 2
dwight in philly Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, clearwater cadet said: I saw this today on bills daily, State Assembly is expected to stay today and *potentially* leave Albany tomorrow. No one expects a budget deal., this wasn't specific to the bills, but saw the NY papers and Albany paper bashing the crap out of us. Spooked me today also.. share your apprehension.. but hopefully it gets done
Steptide Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Forgive my ignorance, but why wouldn't the pegulas wanna pay for it themselves? Wouldn't they own the whole thing if they did? Wouldn't their profits be higher if they owned it? Sorry, I know nothing about this stuff
todd Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 NYS funded both the Mets and Yankees new stadiums. Those downstate fools are just being hypocritical and stupid. 2
Simon Says Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 What "meeting" are you referring to? Are you saying there is a meeting today SPECIFICALLY to discuss the stadium?
The Wiz Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, todd said: NYS funded both the Mets and Yankees new stadiums. Those downstate fools are just being hypocritical and stupid. And to put it even more into perspective. Here is all the NY funding for all of the NYC stadiums. https://www.investigativepost.org/2022/02/28/state-historically-not-a-big-funder-of-stadiums/ Edited March 31, 2022 by The Wiz
Bferra13 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, GottaRun said: With Seneca Nation releasing $564 million in payments to the state I'd say the stadium is a lock "Gov. Kathy Hochul tweeted Tuesday night that the money will go toward the new Bills stadium. “We’ve secured $564 million in payments owed to State & local governments,” Hochul wrote. “These funds were generated in Western New York & will support the State’s share of the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Remaining funds will go directly to Western New York communities.”" Haha and the Seneca response wasn't so pretty. "New York’s hostile and shameless greed was laid bare for the world to see yesterday. After intentionally and unnecessarily holding the Seneca people and thousands of Western New Yorkers and families hostage for several days by strangling various bank accounts held by the Seneca Nation and our businesses, Governor Hochul couldn’t contain her excitement to boast about using her Seneca ransom money for a new stadium." Ouch.
clearwater cadet Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Georgie said: What "meeting" are you referring to? Are you saying there is a meeting today SPECIFICALLY to discuss the stadium? No not specifically the stadium.
dwight in philly Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Bferra13 said: Haha and the Seneca response wasn't so pretty. "New York’s hostile and shameless greed was laid bare for the world to see yesterday. After intentionally and unnecessarily holding the Seneca people and thousands of Western New Yorkers and families hostage for several days by strangling various bank accounts held by the Seneca Nation and our businesses, Governor Hochul couldn’t contain her excitement to boast about using her Seneca ransom money for a new stadium." Ouch. Simple curiosity.. Why didnt the Seneca's pay as agreed? 1
clearwater cadet Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said: Haha and the Seneca response wasn't so pretty. "New York’s hostile and shameless greed was laid bare for the world to see yesterday. After intentionally and unnecessarily holding the Seneca people and thousands of Western New Yorkers and families hostage for several days by strangling various bank accounts held by the Seneca Nation and our businesses, Governor Hochul couldn’t contain her excitement to boast about using her Seneca ransom money for a new stadium." Ouch. Maybe it a mute point, but I hear the casino is packed when the bills have a home game. I don't live in WNY any more, but that's what I've been told. So I would hope the Stadium is a win for everyone.
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