whorlnut Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said: I think that Dotson would be a fine pick, but he is probably only going to play out of the slot in the NFL with his smaller stature. He might, but I’m not so sure. Even if that’s true, it might not be a bad idea since crowder is on a one year deal and McKenzie is basically on a one year deal too. 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 10 hours ago, CapeBreton said: I like Dotson too and apparently the Bills spent lots of time with him at the combine. Wouldn't surprise me if he's the guy at 25. I'd rather Treylon Burks there but Bills haven't had any contact with him, I think he'd be scary in the Bills offense. Alec Pierce looks like he'll be a good value if they wait on WR. Danny Gray also seems undervalued, love the speed and it shows up on tape unlike some of these other guys in the 4.3s. I also like Mike Woods II very late but would rather they draft a guy earlier, hard to see a late round WR making this roster when guys like Hodgins can't make it. Part of me wants them to take 2 wr's, one early and one late. Focus early on a guy who could eventually be a 1a/1b wr as Diggs rounds 30. And then take a flyer on a speed demon, possible with return skills. Velus Jones might be the best returner in the draft. And Tyquan Thornton just leaves people in a cloud of dust. I like Danny Gray in that group too. He reminds me a bit of a younger Manny Sands, sans the big drops... Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Velus Jones 4.31 6’ 204 I know nothing about this guy but if those are his measurables and speed I think he is worth a flyer. Guy is built solidly and instantly one of the fastest players in the league. But can he play? Quote
RyanC883 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Turbo44 said: If Olave or Wilson or Williams are there in the 1st you take them (doubtful) if not, take BPA in rd 1 (hopefully a cb) and take Pickens or Austin in rd 2 (pickens prob won’t be there). I also really like Kyle Phillips (UCLA) as a 4th rd pick. He looks like a faster Cole Beasley to me I don’t think so. Not enough production at North Dakota state, though they are the Bisons Watson is on Jeremiah's top 50, I think in the top 25. But he has issues with drops according to PFF. We may be able to trade-up in Rd. 2 and grab him. That's what I'd do. BPA Rd. 1 (my pref from what looks available is Zion Williamson or Lindenblum, or one of the WA CBs), and then trade up for WR in Rd. 2 (unless one of the day-one stud WR falls to 25, I like Dotson) Dotson is my fav in Rd. 1 of the ones that may be available. I'd pass on the Alabama guy due to only one year (albeit amazing) college production. Dotson catches the ball anywhere near him and has RAC ability. Can play outside or inside. Seems like the type of player we could move around for a mismatch. Edited March 31, 2022 by RyanC883 1 Quote
Lofton80 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) I really like the attached analysis. Seems Burks is the guy to grab if he is available. Burks accomplished a lot in the best conference with so/so quarterbacks. The comments on the other wrs are pretty good. Bucs Briefing: 2022 NFL Draft WR Rankings & Grades (pewterreport.com) https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-briefing-2022-nfl-draft-wr-rankings-grades/ Edited March 31, 2022 by Lofton80 2 Quote
CapeBreton Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: Part of me wants them to take 2 wr's, one early and one late. Focus early on a guy who could eventually be a 1a/1b wr as Diggs rounds 30. And then take a flyer on a speed demon, possible with return skills. Velus Jones might be the best returner in the draft. And Tyquan Thornton just leaves people in a cloud of dust. I like Danny Gray in that group too. He reminds me a bit of a younger Manny Sands, sans the big drops... 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Velus Jones 4.31 6’ 204 I know nothing about this guy but if those are his measurables and speed I think he is worth a flyer. Guy is built solidly and instantly one of the fastest players in the league. But can he play? Velus Jones is an interesting prospect, he'll be 25 in May so might be the oldest player that gets drafted. I'd love him as a return guy, we have to do something there and should be able to get him later in the draft (could drop because of his age is what I've heard). 1 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) If we go WR in the 1st or 2nd round, I fully expect us to put a big emphasis on speed 1st, and size second. I don't believe Beane will get a blazing small guy in the 1st. No one under 6ft in my opinion. That's why I'm thinking Watson Pierce Williams Pickens Williams is the least likely because of where he's projected to go, and his injury. Edited March 31, 2022 by Allen2Moulds 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, Lofton80 said: I really like the attached analysis. Seems Burks is the guy to grab if he is available. Burks accomplished a lot in the best conference with so/so quarterbacks. The comments on the other wrs are pretty good. Bucs Briefing: 2022 NFL Draft WR Rankings & Grades (pewterreport.com) https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-briefing-2022-nfl-draft-wr-rankings-grades/ That guy is a tough marker. And his rounds seem out of touch. If a WR is a good starter, that is not round 2 in my book - or in real life. It may be hard to get any of his top 5 - Burks/Wilson/Olave/London/Williams at the Bills pick at 25. I would feel great if the Bills were able to get any of those 5, and I also include G Pickens (though the author didn't like him as much). For me the hard decisions come if those WRs are all off the board - which happened in the TSW mock draft. Quote
Motor26 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 I want Burks but I have a feeling the Bills don’t. 2 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, Motor26 said: I want Burks but I have a feeling the Bills don’t. There's other guys with more speed and agility that make you say "wow", but there's something about the combination of Burks' strength, hands, deceptive speed and highpoint ability that screams AJ Brown or Eric Moulds to me. I feel like we haven't had a real big physical receiver in forever. The guy just looks like a football player to me and he's the one I want if we go the receiver route in round 1. 2 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: There's other guys with more speed and agility that make you say "wow", but there's something about the combination of Burks' strength, hands, deceptive speed and highpoint ability that screams AJ Brown or Eric Moulds to me. I feel like we haven't had a real big physical receiver in forever. The guy just looks like a football player to me and he's the one I want if we go the receiver route in round 1. Except that Moulds was a big, fast, physical freak. Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, whorlnut said: I really want Dotson. His hands are unbelievable. Runs good routes. Has good speed. He honestly reminds me of Diggs. Dotson is the safest pick, the kid is an absolute stud. 2 Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 37 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: That guy is a tough marker. And his rounds seem out of touch. If a WR is a good starter, that is not round 2 in my book - or in real life. It may be hard to get any of his top 5 - Burks/Wilson/Olave/London/Williams at the Bills pick at 25. I would feel great if the Bills were able to get any of those 5, and I also include G Pickens (though the author didn't like him as much). For me the hard decisions come if those WRs are all off the board - which happened in the TSW mock draft. Diggs was, I believe, a 5th rounder and Cooper Kupp was 3rd round. Lots of good starting WR have come beyond to me 1. Doesn’t mean to stay away from ok WR in round 1, but very good receivers have been found after round round as well. Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: Except that Moulds was a big, fast, physical freak. Exactly. One of the reasons why I prefer Watson or Pierce over the others. Edited March 31, 2022 by LyndonvilleBill Quote
mannc Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, LyndonvilleBill said: Yup. One of the reasons why I prefer Watson or Pierce over the others. Both would be great for the Bills and both probably available at 25. Quote
Playoffs? Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Process said: I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a ton of WRs go by early second. Way too many teams need one. Yep. Also with the WR market blowing up, teams will be reaching early to get starting WRs that will be on the roster with rookie contracts. 1 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 31 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Diggs was, I believe, a 5th rounder and Cooper Kupp was 3rd round. Lots of good starting WR have come beyond to me 1. Doesn’t mean to stay away from ok WR in round 1, but very good receivers have been found after round round as well. Of course, there are good players taken at any round. But the earlier you take a player/position, the better the odds are the player will be good. I'm hoping the Bills take a WR in round 1. That a WR will be the BPA at a premium position of need. And for that to happen it needs to be in the top tier of their board. For me, the top tier are the top 6 that were taken in the TSW draft. And that scenario is one that I don't like because all the top WRs seemed gone and then I wouldn't blame the FO for going with a CB, just like what happened in the TSW draft. If things did happen like in the TSW draft where the top 6 WRs are gone and the BPA looks to be a CB, then there seems more pressure on round 2 for a WR. Hoping a Watson/Dotson or Moore are available. Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, mannc said: Both would be great for the Bills and both probably available at 25. I wouldn't take them at 25. I'm thinking more of a small trade down in the 1st to pick up a late 3rd and then use 57 and the extra 3rd to move up in the 2nd. Quote
Magnum Force Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 17 hours ago, Motorin' said: You forgot the fastest wr in the draft. At 6' 2" 181lbs he ran a 4.28 40 at the combine (faster than Tyreek Hill). Same build and size as Jameson Williams. 1 Quote
dbfla10 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Sleeper pick as a slot, Travell Harris Washington St. Will contribute on specials teams as well.... Late round but more likely UDFA. Work ethic route running are plus plus 1 Quote
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