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Hap as you know as I believe you work in the medical field as do I, ribs are painful to even breathe and I cracked one two years ago in my own complex.  (Thank you texting teenager.)

 

Im not saying the guy is awful, but he just looked off last year especially after October.

 

For me McKenzie was so good in that pats game and so much cheaper.  I’m grateful for his time in Buffalo and helped our team to two playoff years.

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12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

He's an extremely toxic person. Toxic people tend to attract more adoration than they deserve and sometimes more criticism. In Cole's case, he got out on the winning side of it. He's been this way since Dallas.

How’s he toxic?  I’d love to hear this 

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While I agree that Beasley lost a step last season, I also think teams came into games against the Bills with two primary objectives: Stop Diggs and stop Beasley. 

Specifically, if I recall correctly, at least one opposing defender mentioned -- or perhaps it was Josh himself who mentioned it -- that the Bills offense has certain "rules" on which way the receivers are supposed to run their option routes based on the coverage. So if it's "Coverage X", the five yard option route turns into a dig. If it's "Coverage Y", the five yard option route becomes an out. Teams, through film study and because a lot of the Erhardt-Perkins and Mouse Davis concepts the Bills were running have been around for years, were often able to mess up the Bills' "rules" on these routes through post-snap rotation into different coverage that what was initially shown, thus causing the WR to choose the wrong option. 

I think a combination of teams keying on Beasley more (particularly on 3rd and short to medium), teams having a good read on the Bills' passing game "rules" and taking away option routes, and Beasley losing a step either due to injury or age all combined to explain his less effective season. That said, he still caught 82 passes, the same as the year before. He just didn't seem to do as much with them.

In any case, I'm hopeful the Bills can get more athletic, dynamic, and explosive at the slot position. Crowder is younger and probably better at getting RAC yardage, but I'd still like to see them upgrade in the draft.

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3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

He was receiving a lot of targets Hap.  He was tough and tried to play through his injuries.  I didn’t say 2019, as he Brown were godsends, when Josh needed it.

 

I could care less about his off the field comments.  Vacc, not Vacc, whatever.  It’s my opinion as you have you’re own he was not worth $6 mil. When we extended McKenzie.  I like our chances with Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, and now Crowder.

 

I think we used our $ wisely this off season.  It’s too bad we didn’t have him earlier in his career.

 

Its likely we take with a CB in the first or second round, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we take a WR with the other pick.  I could see us G in the third.  I hope we have a punter with our last pick.

 

it’s all conjecture though.

 

 

He had 1 more target in 2020 than 2019 but almost 200 more yards.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Jerry Jabber said:

 

 

When agent described Beasley's leg injury he called it broken but it was cracked.

Likely ribs were cracked as well.

 

I have had both cracked and broken bones.

For me my arm bone was broken playing football and when endorphins went down my arm was in Z shape with bone pieces separated from each other.  There is a difference between broken and fractured.

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22 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

When agent described Beasley's leg injury he called it broken but it was cracked.

Likely ribs were cracked as well.

 

I have had both cracked and broken bones.

For me my arm bone was broken playing football and when endorphins went down my arm was in Z shape with bone pieces separated from each other.  There is a difference between broken and fractured.

Lmao where'd you get ur MD

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38 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

When agent described Beasley's leg injury he called it broken but it was cracked.

Likely ribs were cracked as well.

 

I have had both cracked and broken bones.

For me my arm bone was broken playing football and when endorphins went down my arm was in Z shape with bone pieces separated from each other.  There is a difference between broken and fractured.

Broken = fractured

 

The degree of bone displacement is what determines the treatment. “Hairline fractures” are broken bones that haven’t moved or avulsed.

 

Broken (fractured) ribs are extremely painful and rarely displaced because of the surrounding musculature. There’s nothing to do but wait it out, and to even think of playing football with busted ribs is absolutely mind boggling. Cole was a warrior for us.

 

 

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1 hour ago, RunTheBall said:

Broken = fractured

 

The degree of bone displacement is what determines the treatment. “Hairline fractures” are broken bones that haven’t moved or avulsed.

 

Broken (fractured) ribs are extremely painful and rarely displaced because of the surrounding musculature. There’s nothing to do but wait it out, and to even think of playing football with busted ribs is absolutely mind boggling. Cole was a warrior for us.

 

Again, it’s entirely possible he and the Bills didn’t know the ribs were fractured until after the season.  

 

For a hairline or partial fracture in a person with serious muscle development, the fracture can be difficult to detect.  Happened to a  woman I knew in college.  She took a year off to hike the Continental Divide Trail with a group of friends.  They had to pile into their support van to circumvent a dangerous section of trail.  The guy driving the van rolled it.  She was sleeping in the back on a piece of plywood placed over their boxes of food supplies.  She had hella back muscles from hauling around an ‘80s style frame pack for months.   X-rays were negative, but when pain persisted, she got xrayed again 6 weeks later.  

 

Turns out broken bones are easiest to detect after they start healing, so at that point it could be seen she’d actually cracked two ribs.

 

The pain level for hairline fracture vs. heavy contusion can be similar at first as well, as I understand it

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3 minutes ago, Charles Romes said:

For a really crappy year where he was banged up, not as open, and a huge distraction he still made a good number of plays. I could see him lighting it up for us midsession at the league minimum. 

Beasely reportedly doesn’t want to live in NYS

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3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

I bet you wouldn't.

I can't help but notice you didn't back up your assertion.

2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

When agent described Beasley's leg injury he called it broken but it was cracked.

Likely ribs were cracked as well.

 

I have had both cracked and broken bones.

For me my arm bone was broken playing football and when endorphins went down my arm was in Z shape with bone pieces separated from each other.  There is a difference between broken and fractured.

Right.  You can play with a fracture, pain tolerance.  You can't generally play on a break.  Also, trying to downplay either is ***** pathetic.

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